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Re:Jaw-Dropping Compensation: College Professors vs. College... by Tichy on Monday December 10, 2007 @02:12PM (#87900)
I'd like to see the numbers that prove that the stars/CEOs/whatever are not worth their money. Like, take two identical companies, but have a CEO run one and a random guy from the street run the other, and show that they both are equally successful?

Isn't the typical CEO salary being decided on by the vote of the shareholders? Why would they vote for paying so much, if it wasn't worth it?

I remember reading an article by Greenspun who says that the CEOs rip off the shareholders, though. Just not sure how they pull it off.

Re:Jaw-Dropping Compensation: College Professors vs. College... by DocSavage on Monday December 10, 2007 @05:45PM (#87989)
http://www.gsb.stanford.edu/news/research/compensation_daine...

This study did a peer comparison:

[First, the researchers defined a way to measure CEO skill. Although many studies have examined the relationship between CEO pay and company performance, Daines and his colleagues wanted to isolate specific evidence of executive competence. After all, company performance can depend on a number of factors beyond the power of an individual CEO: the economy, regulatory constraints, or industry conditions, to name just a few.

They decided that a firm run by a skilled CEO should consistently do better than its industry peers. More specifically, a skilled CEO should continue a firm's prior good performance and reverse poor performance. Conversely, a bad CEO would be more likely to continue a poor showing and to reverse the firm's prior successes.

The results were instructive: The study, which reviewed CEO pay and economic performance between 1991-2002, found that in small firms, highly paid CEOs generally are more skilled than their industry counterparts. The correlation is even stronger if the firm has a large shareholder or if the CEO has been paid largely in stocks and options. Conversely, pay is more likely to be negatively related to skill in larger firms. "In many large firms, the highest paid executives actually performed the worst," said Daines.]

Re:Jaw-Dropping Compensation: College Professors vs. College... by davidw on Monday December 10, 2007 @02:32PM (#87911)
Well, it's not really the shareholders who vote on it, it's the board's compensation committee, if I'm not mistaken. The shareholders do vote on the board's composition... but even that is subject to some control by the company:

http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=...

Re:Jaw-Dropping Compensation: College Professors vs. College... by jimbokun on Monday December 10, 2007 @03:39PM (#87929)
And the board's compensation committee is mainly executives from other companies, who want the executives on their board to also vote them a large pay raise...

It is simple collusion among the executive class, insulated from market forces, that determines executive compensation today. Shareholders are largely cut out of the loop.

Re:Jaw-Dropping Compensation: College Professors vs. College... by davidw on Monday December 10, 2007 @05:10PM (#87966)
I wouldn't go quite that far, but the folks at The Economist have made a good case that a few tweaks to the system wouldn't hurt.
Re:Jaw-Dropping Compensation: College Professors vs. College... by dpapathanasiou on Monday December 10, 2007 @05:19PM (#87977)
Well, this Economist story explains why executive pay is unlikely to decline: http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=...
Re:Jaw-Dropping Compensation: College Professors vs. College... by davidw on Monday December 10, 2007 @05:38PM (#87985)
They seem to go back and forth, don't they?:-)

http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=...

I certainly wouldn't favor any broad laws meddling in that kind of thing, but a tweak here and there to open things up to shareholders probably wouldn't hurt.