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Re:An Orangutan Has Some Human Rights, Argentine Court Rules by mbrock on Tuesday December 23, 2014 @10:38AM (#8788521)
They may be ultimately arbitrary, but until you come up with a final conclusive objective ethics, proven metaphysically beyond questioning, the rest of us have to make actual decisions today. The UN, as a collective body, defines various normative concepts, e.g., by defining "human rights." If you have issues with them, you join the proverbial mailing list and state your case.
Re:An Orangutan Has Some Human Rights, Argentine Court Rules by ars on Tuesday December 23, 2014 @03:30PM (#8790033)
My point is that there is no difference between the "rational argument" TheOtherHobbes doesn't like and rights.

He has tried to define a difference between them that doesn't actually exist.