Re:NASA Rover Finds Active and Ancient Organic Chemistry on ...
by TallGuyShort on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @03:25PM
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I believe this is not the case in the US, at least in my experience. In South Africa people say "shame" to express pity for someone else (or even just when something is adorable) but when I say it hear I get weird looks :)
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Re:NASA Rover Finds Active and Ancient Organic Chemistry on ...
by pdabbadabba on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @03:36PM
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Native U.S. English speaker here: we do use the word "shame" as GP describes. We use "shame" both to say that someone should be ashamed and also to express general disappointment. (Though we would not use the word to talk about something that's merely adorable.) To my U.S.-English ears, swombat's use of the word "shame" seemed clearly of the "general disappointment" variety.
Re:NASA Rover Finds Active and Ancient Organic Chemistry on ...
by tomrod on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @10:22PM
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In the U.S. don't we generally use "for shame" when berating?
Re:NASA Rover Finds Active and Ancient Organic Chemistry on ...
by pdabbadabba on Wednesday December 17, 2014 @09:52AM
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Yes. But here the writer simply began a statement with the word "shame" and proceeded to give a sober explanation consistent more with disappointment than outrage. In this context, I think the better interpretation of the writer's sentiment is to read "shame" as, essentially, short for "it's a shame" rather than "for shame!"
Re:NASA Rover Finds Active and Ancient Organic Chemistry on ...
by publicfig on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @03:42PM
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No, it is definitely a case in the US. In his sentence, you could expand it to "That's a shame" or "That's a crying shame", both idioms that can express that something is "unfortunate" or "disappointing", and does not always require a blame.
Re:NASA Rover Finds Active and Ancient Organic Chemistry on ...
by ChristianBundy on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @04:02PM
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I'm a native English speaker and I was born and raised in the US (specifically the Pacific Northwest), and "shame" isn't weird at all.
It's used to express disappointment – with or without blame.
Re:NASA Rover Finds Active and Ancient Organic Chemistry on ...
by TallGuyShort on Wednesday December 17, 2014 @04:48PM
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I've been in the US 15 years now and I'm still never 100% sure about dialect differences :)