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Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by tomp on Thursday December 11, 2014 @09:46AM (#8734948)
Your argument is implicitly based on an assumption that piracy/sharing reduces income/profits. I'm not so sure this assumption is correct; at least it hasn't been demonstrated as true (AFAIK). A strong argument speaking against it is the fact that there are many examples that say the contrary; Avatar is one of the most pirated movies and also one of the most successful ones, and earned a huge amount of money just on cinema tickets. You have e.g. Zynga, King and Rovio who have earned lots of money on free games.

I used to pirate stuff much more when I was younger (a poor student). Now, I often pay for music that I really like, to support the artists! Other music I just watch on YouTube. If I was sure that Netflix would provide a better service than downloading (i.e. good quality, little wait time, superb selection, offline viewing, no geo-restrictions), I would subscribe.

Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by mike_hearn on Thursday December 11, 2014 @10:36AM (#8735296)
Your argument is implicitly based on an assumption that piracy/sharing reduces income/profits. I'm not so sure this assumption is correct; at least it hasn't been demonstrated as true (AFAIK).

It's absolutely been demonstrated to be true, many many times. Do you think game studios, console makers, movie studios etc put money into DRM because none of them understand their own business?

There are lots of people who spoken either on or off the record who say the same things: the moment their copy protection fails, sales fall off a cliff and you can see it in the data. For video games it's even worse. The general figure I see for video game piracy on the PC platform is around 90-95% of players are not paying for it, yet, often they are still consuming resources on e.g. multiplayer servers.

Movie studio executives have graphs of sales and you can see the point at which high quality rips were uploaded to the internet.

Example:

http://www.develop-online.net/news/lgc-2013-sports-interacti...

Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by 0x5f3759df-i on Thursday December 11, 2014 @11:19AM (#8735554)
Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by tomtoise on Thursday December 11, 2014 @11:19AM (#8735550)
>The general figure I see for video game piracy on the PC platform is around 90-95% of players are not paying for it, yet, often they are still consuming resources on e.g. multiplayer servers.

Hang on a sec. If you pirate games, you can't get online on the official servers, that's the whole downside to pirating and the reason so many games now require always-online. Once the game is released through a torrent site, that's it, the developer has no more hand in it. The whole point of cracking a game is to cut the umbilical cord of DRM and online-based play.

Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by anon4 on Thursday December 11, 2014 @11:59AM (#8735767)
You can limit the official servers to people who have a license key.

Plus, DRM is its own detriment. Some days ago I saw Child of Light on sale on Steam and was going to buy it, but then noticed it has uPlay DRM. And as we all know uplay means nobuy.

Personally, I'd rather have no DRM and less games, than more games that need to strongarm people into paying.

Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by gedrap on Thursday December 11, 2014 @10:19AM (#8735166)
>>> I'm not so sure this assumption is correct; at least it hasn't been demonstrated as true (AFAIK).

Might be. But the cost to produce Candy Crush Saga and a AAA title is, well, different. But if you try to find a non-digital analogy, e.g. food, it doesn't make it right for me to steel expensive whisky just because I don't agree with pricing model :)

>>> I used to pirate stuff much more when I was younger (a poor student)

Agree with this, I perfectly know what you mean. When I was a poor student, I would buy a video game once a year on my b-day and keep playing it for a year or two :) completely objective, but it felt really better than downloading a batch on games. But that's not the point :)

This is a different problem (pricing, not intellectual property). HumbleBundle sometimes has games by big publishers for $1, Steam has good weekend sales sometimes (grabbed a few relatively new good games for under $15). I think solution to provide poorer markets can be found in this direction.