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Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by icebraining on Thursday December 11, 2014 @09:06AM (#8734735)
You're still confusing "freedom to share" with "obligation to share". Being for the free sharing of information and choosing to not publish some stuff is completely coherent. Nobody says copyright holders should be forced to publish their works.
Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by waterlesscloud on Thursday December 11, 2014 @09:07AM (#8734743)
So you support spreading the hacked nude photos of celebs? Once someone obtains a copy they should be free to share?

And "Nobody says copyright holders should be forced to publish their works." should be a warning flag to you. Once you get to a position that twisty, you should think to yourself there's probably something wrong with it.

Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by tomp on Thursday December 11, 2014 @09:27AM (#8734842)
> And "Nobody says copyright holders should be forced to publish their works." should be a warning flag to you. Once you get to a position that twisty, you should think to yourself there's probably something wrong with it.

Strange, because that's exactly how the patent/business secrets laws work; a company is free to decide what they want to do with their new invention; they can keep it secret and risk someone else reinventing it, or they can publish it (submit a patent) and receive a temporary monopoly on that technology.

Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by waterlesscloud on Thursday December 11, 2014 @09:44AM (#8734932)
What's being said here is that if you want to keep the rights to something, you must keep it to yourself. If you publish it, you must lose control.

That's exactly the opposite of what patents say.

Patents say if you want to publish something, you can still have protection for it.

Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by sp332 on Thursday December 11, 2014 @10:10AM (#8735105)
Yes, that's correct. A patent is a legal construct that temporarily gives the creator more protections than they would "naturally" have. This is specifically done to encourage people to publish their ideas. After a time, this protection goes away and things are back to normal.
Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by the8472 on Thursday December 11, 2014 @09:23AM (#8734825)
Those celeb photos do not need copyright to be protected from distribution. They need the right to privacy, because that's what's being harmed there.

Copyright just gets used as a tool for takedown because commercial interests have driven the law to make it a much sharper and more immediately applicable tool than privacy laws.

Re:Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?' by icebraining on Thursday December 11, 2014 @10:05AM (#8735068)
What twist? If you don't want your works to be distributed, don't distribute them. I don't see what's weird about that.

As for the nude celeb pictures, I think the original hack should be illegal. I don't think mere distribution should be. It wouldn't serve any purpose to do so, as we've seen - it is illegal right now, did that help anyone?

That doesn't mean I support it. Life is not a binary choice between "this is a good activity" and "this should be illegal".