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Re:SolrCloud, Jepsen, and Flaky Networks by mjb on Thursday December 11, 2014 @12:04PM (#8735803)
It's amazing how much the Jepsen posts have raised the bar around distributed database testing. "Passes Jepsen" seems to be rapidly becoming required for open-source distributed databases. It's a great improvement, and I hope Kyle is really proud of the influence he has had. A big part of the success is that the writing itself was engaging, entertaining and accessible without being patronizing.

Having said that, Jepsen is far from a full exercise of all of the safety properties of a distributed database. There are many kinds of bugs (both protocol bugs and implementation bugs) that wouldn't be detected by these kinds of tests. Passing Jepsen is necessary, but not sufficient. Even without covering truly Byzantine behaviors, real-world networks have many failure modes that Jepsen doesn't address.

Re:SolrCloud, Jepsen, and Flaky Networks by cjbprime on Thursday December 11, 2014 @08:46AM (#8734651)
And @aphyr's twitter response:

So I'm delighted by http://lucidworks.com/blog/call-maybe-solrcloud-jepsen-flaky... … but tbh "may get a successful response for a document that is lost" is actually a CP failure.

-- https://twitter.com/aphyr/status/542820272626491392

Re:SolrCloud, Jepsen, and Flaky Networks by chatman on Saturday December 13, 2014 @04:18AM (#8744691)
@aphyr Wanna repeat how impressed I am with @Lucidworks testing of SolrCloud and how well it behaved. Solid work all round. :)

https://twitter.com/aphyr/status/543547826756530176

Re:SolrCloud, Jepsen, and Flaky Networks by chatman on Thursday December 11, 2014 @08:13AM (#8734517)
Here's the original Jepsen post on ElasticSearch for reference: http://aphyr.com/posts/317-call-me-maybe-elasticsearch
Re:SolrCloud, Jepsen, and Flaky Networks by altcognito on Thursday December 11, 2014 @02:30PM (#8736610)
I'm out of the loop. They are using Carly Rae Jespen's marketing images in the background to promote their open source network testing tool?
Re:SolrCloud, Jepsen, and Flaky Networks by shuttlebrad on Thursday December 11, 2014 @03:20PM (#8736860)
It's a reference to Aphyr's blog series on partitions in distributed application - http://aphyr.com/posts/281-call-me-maybe-carly-rae-jepsen-an.... It's a great series and seems to have raised the level of discussion around distributed apps.

The whole set (in reverse chronological order) is available at http://aphyr.com/tags/jepsen

Re:SolrCloud, Jepsen, and Flaky Networks by craigching on Thursday December 11, 2014 @04:03PM (#8737056)