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Re:Would a Ratting System Work? by Mz on Saturday October 10, 2009 @09:54AM (#873324)
I have a suspicion that my own boss is becoming less tolerant of people's crapola because of my presence. In spite of a serious medical handicap, I am almost never late (maybe once a year?) and I cash in leave every year. Although I am not a stellar performer, I usually make my numbers (and usually sweat bullets to do it, and my boss knows it). I think this is part of why some of the deadwood on my team has recently been cut. I think it has gotten harder for my boss to buy lame excuses and be sympathetic to reasons to fail to do your job. Yes, I require some minor accommodation for my handicap. No, this does not mean that I expect my boss to put up with me failing to do my job. That is not an "accommodation". That would be "charity", which I don't want, thanks.

There's some saying about a "good example being the best lecture"...or something like that. Whether my example subtly influenced my boss's decision or not, I'm pleased to no longer have to put up with some of these people, even though weeks later I am still cleaning up the messes left behind by one of them. But I wouldn't want to work somewhere with a ratting system. I think it would be a draconian environment and would sink to the lowest common denominator in the worst possible way.

Re:Would a Ratting System Work? by stcredzero on Saturday October 10, 2009 @10:50AM (#873355)
So, the workplace has enough pitfalls without introducing all the ones from "social news?"

The problem with all such systems, is that they are all just approximations to something that exists in the real world. Almost by definition, they are imperfect. Reminds me of something someone said about RPG systems. There are the ones you can buy, which are all bad, and the ones you can make yourself, which are invariably worse.

Re:Would a Ratting System Work? by gwern on Saturday October 10, 2009 @02:29PM (#873599)
I'm not really familiar with business jargon - what does it mean to cash in leave every year and why is it a good thing?
Re:Would a Ratting System Work? by pbhjpbhj on Saturday October 10, 2009 @03:10PM (#873661)
He means he doesn't take his allocation of days away from work but instead he sells those days back to the company.

Why is that good? Beats me. Unless he gets an above average holiday allowance it sounds terrible both for his long term health and for his productivity.

Re:Would a Ratting System Work? by Mz on Saturday October 10, 2009 @03:36PM (#873718)
It means I don't use all my allotted off time and I take part of it as pay at the end of the year. In other words, I am reliably in the office. This is considered important where I work and taking more time off than you are entitled to can be grounds for being fired. Promptness and being on time are also valued by the company I work for and deemed indicators of reliability -- are you there when they need to ask you to do something above and beyond your normal daily duties?

As for other remarks made here:

I mention it first in part because a coworker likely was recently fired in part because they were routinely late and, after strolling in the office late, would then mosey down to the cafeteria and grab a bite to eat. I don't know for a fact, but remarks that were made suggest to me that this employee generally failed to do the quantity and quality of work they were expected to do. I think the experience at my company is that tardiness and abuse of time off usually correlate to poor work performance.

I am not actually sacrificing my health by working the hours I do. My health has steadily improved in the three years I have had this job. I don't really understand the whole idea of "taking a vacation" and I never have. But that's probably something I can't adequately explain to most people.

Re:Would a Ratting System Work? by shiranaihito on Saturday October 10, 2009 @03:14PM (#873672)
I'd guess he means not actually going on a holiday but "taking" your holiday in the form of additional pay instead.

It could be thought of as an indication that the employee in question is a dutiful little peon, which some bosses would probably like.

On the other hand, if someone tried to do this in Finland in July, when practically the whole country is on summer holiday and workplaces are very nearly totally empty, it might not work that well.