Re:Google News to shut down in Spain
by KobaQ on Wednesday December 10, 2014 @11:18PM
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That's exactly how it has to be done. Google can't be allowed to copy the content or parts of it without permission of the creator. We shouldn't forget that they're making huge amounts of money by selling others work here. On the other hand Google claims to create "real value for these publications by driving people to their websites", which is often true in the short run. So the publisher can consider allowing copying parts of their articles. And Google could even consider charging them for this service.
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Re:Google News to shut down in Spain
by kpommerenke on Wednesday December 10, 2014 @11:48PM
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Your statement "Google can't be allowed to copy the content or parts of it without permission of the creator" doesn't take into account that "Publishers can choose whether or not they want their articles to appear in Google News" (from the post).
I think I took this into account, but I admit I didn't see something else, which you pointed me to:
>> This new legislation requires every Spanish publication to charge services like Google News for showing even the smallest snippet from their publications, whether they want to or not.
In Spain it's not possible for publishers to allow Google to post without payment.
So, yeah, in this case I missed the point ...
And it also doesn't take into account that publishers can use robots.txt to disallow Google News scrapping
> Google can't be allowed to copy the content or parts of it without permission of the creator
Do you also believe Google should remove the excerpts from web sites on search result pages?
If it's the substantial part of the content, yes. But in the case of most of the web search results it is not, so no.
However, you've asked the tricky question. Is it necessary to go to the website or to the original news article or not?
That's just my moral based evaluation, I guess from the perspective of a lawyer it's seen differently, much more strictly.
It seems to me if a news article can be summed up in the one-sentence excerpt shown on Google News, I could just get that from Twitter and it has very little value...
> That's exactly how it has to be done. Google can't be allowed to copy the content or parts of it without permission of the creator
Are you saying that quoting and news aggregation must be illegal without consent?