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Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by yc1010 on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @07:16PM (#8726768)
That would make little economic sense since shipping is cheaper than trains, and container ships keep getting bigger and more efficient.
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by privong on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @07:37PM (#8726874)
Are ships still cheaper if one considers the time and expense of loading/unloading the ship, plus taking containers off and putting them back on rail cars? It seems like the switching of modes could contribute non-negligible overhead. I suppose the impact of the overhead depends on the distance though. China – US might be far enough that the overheads do not matter.
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by mynameishere on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @07:54PM (#8726964)
I think it usually goes ship -> truck rather than ship -> train -> truck.

Example at 8:00 here (Turn volume off) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYBImNhYO5U

Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by privong on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @08:05PM (#8727016)
The wikipedia article on intermodal transport suggests close to 70% of intermodal goes on railroads in the US[0]. I am not sure what the breakdown is in terms of origin (ship vs truck) before it gets on the railway, but it seems reasonable that the ship -> train is at least comparable to, if not larger than ship -> truck. But I imagine it depends on cargo and its final destination. If it's more than a day's drive and is a larger shipment (more than 1 container), I suspect that makes it more likely for a train to get involved.

The same wiki article later says trucks are often used to go between ships and rail[1]; depending on what fraction of shipments experience that, it might be an even stronger argument for rail the whole way, if it saves 2x loading/unloading from trucks.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermodal_freight_transport#C...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermodal_freight_transport#T...

Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by tormeh on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @08:48PM (#8727215)
Depends on how fast you want them there. That it's economically senseless is not a done deal.