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Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by bediger4000 on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @04:20PM (#8725841)
More legal argument. Given that the current US legal system doesn't apparently protect me, a US citizen, from administrative assassination, I'm worried that I can be administratively shipped off for torture.

That is: the actions outlined in this summary of a report, and in other tacit admissions by US elected leaders, go way beyond arguing that the actions are "legal" or "illegal". The actions outlined in the summary speak to a government that does not care about most human beings at all.

All of morality is not contained within the law. Segregation was legal for a while. Apartheid was legal for a while.

Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by rayiner on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @05:32PM (#8726314)
It's not a legal argument at all. Go up to a random person on the street (not in San Francisco), and tell them that the rights of people caught fighting against the U.S. in Afghanistan are just as important as those of law-abiding immigrants trying to build a life in the U.S.

To the contrary. I think you have to have a very legalistic dedication to procedural due process to assert that people abroad advocating the violent overthrow of the United States should have the same rights as ordinary accused in the United States.

Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by bediger4000 on Wednesday December 10, 2014 @11:55AM (#8730147)
I have to disagree: the instant that something becomes a privilege, and not a right, is the instant that some administrator can decide that I personally don't deserve that privilege. There goes my personal protection against our police force, and my personal ability to speak my mind.

Beyond that, if it's good policy for US citizens to have freedom of speech, or right to a fair trial, or to not be tortured, then it's good policy for all humans to have those rights.

By asserting the "random person in the street" argument, you're asserting a tyranny of the majority. You should know better. Shame on you.