Re:Data munging in Perl 6 vs. Perl 5
by mercurial on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @03:57PM
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It's definitely leaning toward the functional side, but some things look very odd (like calling "filename".IO...). The new operators leave me dubious (eg, '*' to create a one-argument lambda function). And 'ยป'? At least the equivalent '>>' is apparently available, but damn...
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Re:Data munging in Perl 6 vs. Perl 5
by delluminatus on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @04:20PM
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The * operator made me laugh out loud. Only Perl would have an operator called a "Whatever star".
Although, I actually think a lot of the stuff Perl does is really cool. I wouldn't want to have to maintain a codebase of it, but it never fails to be interesting. Like the whatever star. "*.value" basically saying, "Whatever value is here, gimme the value of it". It's different from a typical lambda declaration, but intuitive in its own way.
Re:Data munging in Perl 6 vs. Perl 5
by munificent on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @06:21PM
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> It's different from a typical lambda declaration, but intuitive in its own way.
Isn't it pretty similar to Scala's use of "_"? I think _.value creates a one-parameter lambda in Scala.
Yeah, but it would be neat if it was a word instead, for example "that". "*" is hilarious, though. How do you multiply in Perl if the star is taken? I also like that it's named "whatever star", reminds me of Scala's Pimp my Library feature[0]
An asterisk is only a Whatever if it's in term position:
(* * *)(2, 3)
will happily print 6.I'd like to point out there are magical errors put in to keep Perl6 code relatively sane too:
> .map: ** * * * **
===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <unknown file>
Multiple HyperWhatevers and Whatevers may not be used togetherI didn't find the whatever star funny until this point.
Whatever ;)
Perl has always had something called "context" :)
Clojure has %:
(map #(/ % 2) [2 4 6 8]) => (1 2 3 4)
(map #(% 2) [#(- 2 %) #(* 2 %)]) => (0 4)
(#(+ %1 %2 %3) 2 4 6) => 12
It's not just one argument! I't consumes as many arguments as you like, there is also the HYPER WHATEVER which is two asterisc in a row * * (without white space a limitation of HN!) which is a dimensioned form of whatever for dealing with higher dimension data structures.
The following are identical with and without whatever:
perl6> "ACAGATAAATTA".comb.map: * ~ * ~ * ;
ACA GAT AAA TTA
perl6> "ACAGATAAATTA".comb.map({$^first ~ $^second ~ $^third});
ACA GAT AAA TTA
It's worth pointing out we're lucky that 'first' is lexically before 'second' in the second one though. The $^ consumes parameters in the lexical order of the variable names. So it's used normally for $^a $^b in sorting. So .sort({$^a cmp $^b}) versus .sort({$^b cmp $^a}). But a general feature was made rather than an obscure exception. In general Perl6 is very consistent. It might also just be a bit too crazy at times, some of the stuff you can do like the (* * *)(2,3) below you obviously would just not do in real life.So an example where the lexical ordering is kind of neat:
perl6> "ACAGATAAATTA".comb.map({$^third ~ $^second ~ $^first});
ACA TAG AAA ATT
Contrived since you could just split the string by three characters and flip it :P But hopefully you get the idea!