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Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by cryoshon on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @12:57PM (#8724374)
This is our government, and these acts are done in the name of our safety.

If you are not interested in someone torturing on your behalf, you need to speak out, and loudly.

Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by spacefight on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @02:02PM (#8724853)
It's not only your government, it's also the staff working at the military/industrial complex. It's also other governments and their staff who have been pribed/coerced to help them with their plan.

It's people. It's people among us.

It's sickening.

Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by gcb0 on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @05:58PM (#8726427)
your elected officials are only now learning about what happened. nothing there was authorized by who you allowed into power.

The common man is even more detached from the powers that be than previously assumed (which was already low).

Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by DanBC on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @06:03PM (#8726450)
"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"

We knew - we knew - that detainees were being tortured. We didn't know how many; nor for how long; nor the exact methods; but we did know that it was happening.

Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by ams6110 on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @11:40PM (#8727722)
We (congress) knew more than vague generalities. According to Jose Rodriguez[1], administration and congressional leaders knew, approved, and were kept briefed throughout.

[1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/todays-cia-critics-on...

Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by gcb0 on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @06:51PM (#8726656)
true. i stand corrected.
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Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by olifante on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @03:40PM (#8725561)
1. The crimes of others do not excuse your own.

2. There is abundant proof that the US engaged in a deliberate, not occasional, policy of torture, whitewashed as "enhanced interrogation techniques".

3. There is so far no proof that other western nations have recently had a policy of deliberate torture, except for the sad cases where the US creatively outsourced some of its torture needs to Poland and perhaps a few other eastern european countries.

Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by Shivetya on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @03:58PM (#8725683)
Where was I excusing anyone? I am merely stating, it would be ignorant to assume that other western countries are not doing the same and the same investigation into the possibility is warranted.

Other Western nations facilitated capture and detention, they are helped get people to the CIA. So you are seriously telling me that they didn't suspect? Really???

Look, the EU is willing to drag planes from the sky to support the US in getting Snowden, so you think they don't know what the CIA was doing? Really???

Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by xxxyy on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @05:00PM (#8726125)
These tortures were only happening in Poland, just like the Holocaust was merely happening in Poland. I hope that this is what you mean by 'creatively' - i.e. just changing the place, not the people.
Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by gcb0 on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @06:54PM (#8726671)
if any of those were true, there would be no war.

in reality, everything is excused when it is against the enemy. but even then, the problem here is that 1) most things were done just out of sadism. for no real benefit. US tax payers pretty much paid for a BSDM dungeon for some sick CIA operatives. 2) several cases caught lawful citizens and great pains were taken to make it look like nothing happened.

Re:US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program by mattgibson on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @07:35PM (#8726859)
> in reality, everything is excused when it is against the enemy.

This is meaningless if you get to define any innocent/held-without-charge person as 'enemy'.