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Re:über vs. Uber by allendoerfer on Saturday December 06, 2014 @04:14PM (#8710231)
Also keep in mind the historical context: The lyrics where written as a poem in 1841 and go on like "wenn es stets [...] bürderlich zusammenhält" (if it always sticks together brotherly), to encourage the German states (Austria, Prussia, Bavaria etc.) to unite as they will be "über alles" and survive against France only if they do so.

Nevertheless the first verse describes the old borders, and the second mentions German women along with wine and singing, and would therefor today be killed by gender activists anyway :D

Re:über vs. Uber by jrochkind1 on Saturday December 06, 2014 @05:31PM (#8710441)
Is "gender activists" the new phrase to use when insulting strawman (strawwoman?) feminists?
Re:über vs. Uber by allendoerfer on Saturday December 06, 2014 @06:59PM (#8710675)
I don't know. I did not want to insult anyone, so I avoided the general term "feminist", because not all of them want to enforce every aspect of gender-neutral language, which can be quite annoying in a language like German, where everything has a gender. Of course this case (listing women next to wine and singing) is quite extreme.
Re:über vs. Uber by jrochkind1 on Saturday December 06, 2014 @08:21PM (#8710879)
For the record, I don't think you succeeded in not insulting anyone.
Re:über vs. Uber by allendoerfer on Sunday December 07, 2014 @12:17AM (#8711327)
That is too bad. But if you try hard enough, you can feel insulted every time someone says something. So I suppose it is not really possible to succeed, especially on this topic.