Ask HN: Who is hiring? (December 2014)

Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (December 2014) by tptacek on Monday December 01, 2014 @02:37PM (#8683163)

Not every company is a good fit for every developer. For instance: I probably wouldn't like working at Valve. I do not however extrapolate that no company should be organized like Valve, simply because I wouldn't like it there. I am happy that there are companies like Valve that work well for the kind of people who are compatible with Valve, and companies like Matasano that work well for the sort of people who want to collaborate in person with a small, tight-knit group of peers and across the net with a larger group.

Gingerly, I'm going to go ahead and suggest that "incompatible with HN user 'kethinov" is not quite the dealbreaking deficit you're giving the impression that it is.

If you'd like to do appsec work remote, let me suggest Accuvant, Leviathan, and IOActive as alternatives. All three have remote teams. In fact, I believe everyone on the pentest team at Accuvant is remote. You never have to interact with your coworkers in person there at all.

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Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (December 2014) by kethinov on Tuesday December 02, 2014 @06:55AM (#8686684)

We're not talking about subjective stuff like company culture, we're talking about factually disprovable statements like "you need to be in a physical office to collaborate effectively." That's an objectively false statement and it's irritating to see so many people repeat it.

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Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (December 2014) by saturdayplace on Tuesday December 02, 2014 @11:08AM (#8687765)

I don't think either of the posts you've replied to in this thread state that all employees at all companies require physical proximity to collaborate effectively. Just that Matasano (by virtue of its leadership) prefers proximity.

It's entirely reasonable that some people prefer proximity over remote arrangements. People who don't aren't likely to enjoy working at Matasano. That doesn't negate the existence of other perfectly good options for them, as tptacek pointed out.

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Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (December 2014) by kethinov on Tuesday December 02, 2014 @05:07PM (#8690294)

You don't think that "we prefer folks to be in the office where they can interact with others with less friction" is stating a requirement of physical proximity to collaborate effectively? That's how I read it.

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Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (December 2014) by tptacek on Tuesday December 02, 2014 @07:03PM (#8690983)

Again: I'm assuming you're this invested in the thread because you really like the idea of working for an appsec firm. I don't blame you! Appsec is an awesome field to work in. I think you'd be much happier talking to Accuvant, which runs an all-remote team, than in trying to talk Matasano out of a carefully-made decision that is a core part of its culture.

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Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (December 2014) by kethinov on Sunday December 07, 2014 @02:30PM (#8713261)

I'm interested in this thread because it had so many instances of unstated premises hostile to remote work and I felt someone should say something to set the record straight.

It saddens me that you chose to ignore the substance of my argument and focus on visiting my intentions instead.

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