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Re:Hard-won lessons about money and investing by lars on Sunday November 30, 2014 @10:02AM (#8676947)
Living on a low percentage of income seems like a great strategy if you're optimizing for dying with the maximum amount of money in the bank.

I think many people in this thread need to consider if that really is the game they want to be playing. I'd think people would be better off maximizing their total happiness. There's research showing that having good memories from the past positively affects momentary happiness in the present [1]. With that in mind, it seems like spending money on great experiences now is a good idea, while excessive saving could be counter productive.

[1]: http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~dtg/DUNN%20GILBERT%20&%20WILSON%...

Re:Hard-won lessons about money and investing by gbog on Sunday November 30, 2014 @10:36AM (#8677012)
But money don't buy good memories. I have much better memories of camping with friends for near zero euros, than expensive hotels.
Re:Hard-won lessons about money and investing by HelloMcFly on Sunday November 30, 2014 @02:33PM (#8677780)
Money doesn't buy good memories, but it sure helps finance many opportunities to make them. It's neither necessary nor sufficient, but that doesn't make it highly enabling.
Re:Hard-won lessons about money and investing by lubos on Sunday November 30, 2014 @10:53AM (#8677062)
You need to consider the opportunity cost too. While you were camping in the bush, you weren't earning.
Re:Hard-won lessons about money and investing by aquadrop on Sunday November 30, 2014 @03:58PM (#8678050)
I don't know why you were downvoted, your statement is right. For example, if someone have financial problems for some reason and have to work 2 jobs to deal with it, he/she hardly could get out camping with friends. Money can buy you spare time which you can fill with uncostly memories.
Re:Hard-won lessons about money and investing by marincounty on Sunday November 30, 2014 @03:28PM (#8677965)
Yea, it's good relationships with people. I'll throw pets in there too. Some of my best friends have been dogs, and cats.(Some might consider this pathetic, but my pets were important part of my life, and I miss them all. Hell--I don't consider them as pets--they were family members.)
Re:Hard-won lessons about money and investing by halfcat on Sunday November 30, 2014 @04:38PM (#8678210)
>Living on a low percentage of income seems like a great strategy if you're optimizing for dying with the maximum amount of money in the bank.

MMM/ERE [1][2] are not about maximizing money at all. They are about obtaining only a sufficient level of capital, so that they are no longer obligated to work for income to continue living happily. The numerical value of "sufficient" gets lower as your expenses decrease.

>I'd think people would be better off maximizing their total happiness.

Based on your comments, to you, happiness comes from experiences which require money, which is perfectly fine. Therefore, MMM and ERE are not for you, which again is perfectly fine.

For others who find happiness in experiences requiring little to no funds, MMM/ERE is an exceptional strategy. I would love to spend my days coding, studying chess, reading books, cooking, mentoring youth, and spending time with the small group of people I am close with (I'm rather introverted).

[1] http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/

[2] http://earlyretirementextreme.com/

Re:Hard-won lessons about money and investing by mreiland on Sunday November 30, 2014 @10:59AM (#8677069)
security is a thing. When I went into freelancing I did it easily since I lived so cheaply. My monthly bills were under $1k and I was making an above average wage for software dev in my area.

I knew a guy who wanted to get into freelancing but wouldn't do it because his expenses were too high.

There's happiness, but there's also planning and self control.