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Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by kakooljay on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @12:57PM (#867074)
Interesting, but not really surprising. Artists & musicians aren't "getting rich" either.. Is there some reason a normal(ish) distribution wouldn't apply to iPhone earnings?
Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by coglethorpe on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @01:23PM (#867135)
It seems the same as with any "hit" driven environment. Getting a top-40 song, a top blog, the next NYT bestseller, or top iPhone app takes a lot of work and a little luck. There are those who are suited to it, persevere and get that big break. Then there are a few who just don't get lucky and thousands of wannabes who fail to execute, be it on minor flaws or epic levels.

I think the best description of the process comes from an editor explaining why so many manuscripts fail: http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/004641.html#00...

It's harsh, but has given me insight into how the startup world, including iPhone app startups, works.

Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by stcredzero on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @01:25PM (#867144)
Apparently, even being a drug dealer works the same way.

http://www.freakonomicsbook.com/thebook/ch3.html

Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by coglethorpe on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @01:33PM (#867169)
I don't have statistics to back me up, but I'm fairly certain the odds of survival are considerably higher for iPhone developers.
Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by stcredzero on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @02:07PM (#867267)
Yes, but the pyramid structure of wealth (concentrated at the top) definitely applies.
Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by coglethorpe on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @02:23PM (#867310)
With the right binoculars, you can see Steve Jobs standing way up there on top. I do get what you mean about that, but it seems smaller pyramids can be built next to the big ones, even if they do pay taxes (so to speak) to the bigger ones. Maybe the iPhone isn't the best environment for that? Or maybe the real money is in building apps for other companies who need their services extended to a new platform.
Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by stcredzero on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @03:48PM (#867487)
I strongly suspect your last sentence is the key!
Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by zmoney on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @03:45PM (#867483)
The survival rate for both groups is exactly 0%.
Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by algorias on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @01:36PM (#867180)
The problem doesn't lie with the curve.

It's that even those on top aren't winning big. Why play the lottery when the top prize is modest, and the risk is high?

Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by eugenejen on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @01:17PM (#867119)
What you meant is Pareto Distribution, not Gaussian distribution. They are completely different.
Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by kakooljay on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @02:27PM (#867326)
Maybe you're right. Apparently Pareto originally used his distribution to describe wealth allocation & intuitively it seems fair to assume that 20% of the developers account for ~80% of the earnings. But are you sure?

Btw, if developer talent is normally distributed (talent, it seems, usually is), shouldn't developer earnings also be? I'm not a statistician but it's an interesting question..

Re:IPhone App Store Developers Aren't Getting Rich by eugenejen on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @05:59PM (#867755)
The impression I learned in my statistical mechanics course 20 years ago is Gaussian distribution works well in the case similar to Random Walk. If the system has restrictions on microscopic behavior, then Gaussian distribution will not apply. I think the benefit of talent may not be in normal distribution. The distribution of probability depends on the case and conditions that we pay attention to.

For example, a talented chef can only serve similar amount dishes in a night as less talented chefs. But the dishes they made taste much better than those and charge more.

At the same time, a talented plumber or a talented doctors can not serve more customers or patients than a less talented plumber or doctors.

It seems when the benefit of the talent scales, the distribution of their influence is Pareto distribution. So it seems developers, musician, artists, physicists fall into this category.