Re:World’s Largest Containership Also Sets Record for Larges...
by mrfusion on Tuesday November 25, 2014 @09:34PM
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Why wouldn't a gas turbine be more efficient?
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Re:World’s Largest Containership Also Sets Record for Larges...
by nradov on Tuesday November 25, 2014 @09:44PM
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Gas turbines are more efficient in terms of size and weight for a given power level but burn more fuel. Merchant ships mostly care about fuel efficiency.
Re:World’s Largest Containership Also Sets Record for Larges...
by mrfusion on Tuesday November 25, 2014 @09:55PM
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So why do power plants use gas turbines?
Re:World’s Largest Containership Also Sets Record for Larges...
by nostrademons on Tuesday November 25, 2014 @10:39PM
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Do they? I thought most fossil-fueled power plants use coal, which they burn to power a steam turbine. Natural gas plants often use gas turbines, but this is very different from the gas turbine used by a ship: the latter burns kerosene, not natural gas. (Natural gas is uneconomical to power a moving vessel; because it's a gas, you need space to store it, and that space can be orders of magnitude bigger than an equivalent energy-density of diesel fuel or kerosene.) Diesel engines or oil-powered gas turbines are very rare for power plants, outside of backup generators for hospitals etc.
Re:World’s Largest Containership Also Sets Record for Larges...
by hga on Wednesday November 26, 2014 @08:07AM
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Peaking power. For the relatively short peaks when e.g. everyone gets off from work it's most efficient to fire up some gas turbines for a little while. Or on the relatively infrequent hottest days of the year.
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Re:World’s Largest Containership Also Sets Record for Larges...
by vibrolax on Tuesday November 25, 2014 @11:16PM
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Gas turbines are in fact used for direct electrical generation. In a combined cycle plant, the waste heat from the gas turbine exhaust is used to generate steam for a steam turbine.
For example: http://www.cpsenergy.com/services/natural_gas/natgas_generat...
Gas turbines are useful for peaking load, because they can be started and stopped quickly, relative to pure steam turbine generation.
Re:World’s Largest Containership Also Sets Record for Larges...
by snowwrestler on Tuesday November 25, 2014 @11:17PM
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A number of power plants in the U.S. generate electrical power by burning natural gas in a turbine.
Re:World’s Largest Containership Also Sets Record for Larges...
by D_Alex on Wednesday November 26, 2014 @04:49AM
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Simple cycle gas turbines have efficiencies of 30-35%, whereas a large diesel engine can reach ~50%.
A combination of gas turbine, steam boiler running off GT exhaust and a steam turbine can reach efficiencies of ~55%. However, the system is complex and expensive, and not well suited for driving ship's propellers. Once additional kit like gearboxes are introduced, the drive system efficiency is no better than a direct-drive low speed diesel.
Finally, the diesel engines burn viscous, high-sulfur fuel... not really sure if a GT could handle the crap those engines use.