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Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by morganvachon on Saturday November 22, 2014 @03:50PM (#8646621)
FYI, this issue exists in PC-BSD too. I tend to use Chromium anyway and Firefox as a backup, so it doesn't bite me as much when I'm in that OS. But it's definitely a big one.
Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by byuu on Saturday November 22, 2014 @04:27PM (#8646714)
Well, you can work around it (with no known downsides) by adding:

    export MOZ_DISABLE_IMAGE_OPTIMIZE=1
To the top of your ~/.xinitrc file. Kind of surprised PC-BSD doesn't do that for you. Probably should ask them to.
Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by tedunangst on Saturday November 22, 2014 @04:38PM (#8646732)
IIRC that would sometimes lead to weird glitches like images with repeating static patterns, though perhaps those bugs have been fixed as well.
Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by byuu on Saturday November 22, 2014 @05:41PM (#8646926)
Might have in the past, I have yet to see any rendering glitches from it.

Now, some of the about:config options that were proposed as alternate workarounds definitely caused very weird rendering glitches, but this one seems mostly side-effect free.

Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by tedunangst on Saturday November 22, 2014 @05:52PM (#8646964)
You're right. I was thinking of gfx xrender.
Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by mveety on Saturday November 22, 2014 @06:27PM (#8647055)
Bug still exists, but only shows up in fewer cases now.
Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by morganvachon on Saturday November 22, 2014 @08:46PM (#8647498)
Surprisingly, PC-BSD doesn't generate a ~/.xinitrc file, I had to create one. I just put that line in mine, and restarted X. Seems to be working well, I loaded up a 4K image in Firefox with no stuttering, pausing, or other noticeable problems, and it definitely slowed the system to a crawl before making the change. Thanks!
Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by tedunangst on Saturday November 22, 2014 @04:14PM (#8646683)
This is why OpenBSD is the superior desktop operating system. Fixed months ago. :)
Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by hiphopyo on Sunday November 23, 2014 @12:07AM (#8647870)
Indeed. This thread should really be titled OpenBSD vs. Linux.

I'm sure most people here don't even know it's the only OS in the world allowing you run Xorg as an unprivileged user.

Just like Linux taught me to appreciate FreeBSD, FreeBSD taught me to appreciate OpenBSD. OpenBSD -- the world's simplest and most secure Unix-like OS. Creator of the world's most used SSH implementation OpenSSH, the world's most elegant firewall PF, the world's most elegant mail server OpenSMTPD, and the OpenSSL rewrite LibreSSL. OpenBSD -- the cleanest kernel, the cleanest userland and the cleanest configuration syntax.

FreeBSD -- growing overly complex [1], lagging on security [2], packing itself with unnecessary, experimental technologies, and representing itself with a satanic mascot and a shiny, dildo-looking logo.

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[1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2012-Janu...

[2] http://itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/62641-crypto-...

Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by knob on Sunday November 23, 2014 @06:36AM (#8648493)
Personally, I love FreeBSD's beastie. Don't care much if it is "satanical" or whatnot.
Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by the_why_of_y on Sunday November 23, 2014 @07:34AM (#8648601)
Beastie was much better than the new logo that looks like a shiny bauble.
Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by the_why_of_y on Sunday November 23, 2014 @07:16AM (#8648569)
> I'm sure most people here don't even know it's the only OS in the world allowing you run Xorg as an unprivileged user.

Maybe the first, but these articles claim Fedora can do it too, although currently you need to edit a config file, and it only works if you invoke startx(1), not when logging in from gdm.

http://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/14446.html http://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/14268.html

Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by ajs124 on Saturday November 29, 2014 @05:49PM (#8675358)
I really don't want to be _that_ guy that brings up archlinux, but…

"X is now rootless with the help of systemd-logind, this also means that it must be launched from the same virtual terminal as was used to log in, redirecting stderr also breaks rootless login. […]"

https://www.archlinux.org/news/xorg-server-116-is-now-availa...

This is obviously not a feature of archlinux itself, but an upstream x.org feature.

Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by icarot on Saturday November 29, 2014 @10:23PM (#8675869)
C'mon, this unimpressive feature is the default in Arch for a while now.

Attempting to talk about "Linux", as if some single operating system - lack of pluralism between commenters to handle the differences notwithstanding - is a problem with this thread.

Re:Ask HN: Can we talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux? by ewbuoi on Sunday November 23, 2014 @12:36AM (#8647921)
It's just too bad they don't support ZFS or any similar filesystem. Their reasoning makes a lot of sense, but there are a lot of useful features that would be nice to have.