FreeBSD: the next 10 years

Re:FreeBSD: the next 10 years by porker on Saturday November 22, 2014 @05:21AM (#8645265)

I saw a joke about the GPL and comment on systemd? GPL joke was unnecessary, though it does comment on why companies may prefer *BSD; the systemd bit - well threads passim here on HN say Linux users are tearing themselves apart enough without help. And I read it as that Linux is onto something good here and FreeBSD should follow.

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Re:FreeBSD: the next 10 years by keithpeter on Saturday November 22, 2014 @07:40AM (#8645433)

Slides 21 to around 30 seemed like an argument for something like systemd - a 'stack' in the middle between the kernel and the applications. I saw it as a back-handed compliment. One has to remember that the slides supported a talk and talks need a little humour sometimes.

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Re:FreeBSD: the next 10 years by progman on Saturday November 22, 2014 @08:04AM (#8645471)

> argument for something _like_ systemd

Correct. Unfortunately systemd is not a well separated 'stack' in the middle between kernel and applications but an interweaved network which tightly connects all three parts.

I hope that the community has learned from the SystemV/systemd discussion and will go a new way which avoids the weaknesses of both systems towards a cleanly separated layer.

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Re:FreeBSD: the next 10 years by _delirium on Saturday November 22, 2014 @01:08PM (#8646154)

At this point there are at least three fairly major "post-sysV" integrated launch/supervision/config systems that I would guess the FreeBSD devs will take away some lessons from (especially because I know there are FreeBSD devs with experience using each of them): Linux's systemd, Solaris's SMF, and OSX's launchd.

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Re:FreeBSD: the next 10 years by keithpeter on Saturday November 22, 2014 @09:35AM (#8645593)

Perhaps I should have said 'something like' and qualified the differences.

I'm sure the BSD community can learn and can improve on the idea. Perhaps their result could be ported back to Linux as an alternative.

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Re:FreeBSD: the next 10 years by teacup50 on Saturday November 22, 2014 @01:15PM (#8646174)

Seeing as he explicitly referenced launchd, I'd say it was an argument for something like launchd, NOT systemd.

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Re:FreeBSD: the next 10 years by stock_toaster on Saturday November 22, 2014 @06:48PM (#8647119)

This was my take on it as well.

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