Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by hapless on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @01:15PM
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Microsoft's value has been falling because it is obvious that software commoditization threatens their revenues. Windows and Office isn't packed with growth potential. No amount of "vision" or "leadership" will defy fate.
Many products launched during Ballmer's tenure have been successful. More importantly, Microsoft has been able to move away from their core business.
* Sharepoint (A billion dollar product and a multi-billion dollar industry.)
* Axapta (purchased)
* Great Plains (purchased)
* Solomon (purchased)
* Xbox/Xbox 360
* BizTalk
* .NET (An application stack to compete with J2EE, unthinkable in 1999.)
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During the same period, a number of Microsoft products went from minor items to major contenders in their industries.
* MS SQL was a Sybase clone in 1999; in 2009 it's a price/performance champ.
* Exchange was only used in "Microsoft shops" in 1999. Today it's the de facto standard.
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by btilly on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @03:07PM
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The Xbox 360 never had to make profit to be successful. The reason the product was introduced is that Microsoft saw itself going head to head with Sony in a number of markets, and so they wanted to undercut Sony's big cash cow, the playstation.
As long as Microsoft reduced Sony's profits more than Microsoft lost money, the mission was accomplished.
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by protomyth on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @03:20PM
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Ok, you pretty much stated my big problem with Microsoft. They don't have a great idea for a new product, but their competitor of the week has a product that they want to stomp.
What business does Microsoft have going after Sony?
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by btilly on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @03:43PM
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They were head to head in a lot of places. Both wanted to create the next DRM standard, Sony was pushing Blu-ray so Microsoft pushed back, Microsoft wanted to push its software into portable devices, and Sony didn't want them there, and Microsoft was afraid that the Playstation would grow up into a general purpose computer in every household and undermine the PC market.
So Microsoft saw a company going head to head with them in a lot of key areas, and they decided to weaken the threat.
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by gloob on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @03:31PM
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Costing Sony money would reduce the amount of money Sony could spend on other ventures. At least a subset of those "other ventures" are things Microsoft is actively interested in.
Disclaimer: I have no actual experience with either Microsoft or Sony when it comes to this sort of thing, so I might be way off target here.
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by kakooljay on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @12:06PM
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Ballmer's not exactly a visionary:
In a post from June [http://thenextweb.com/2009/06/02/web-death-google] Boris relates a famous story about a meeting between Yahoo and Microsoft which took place when Yahoo was still a small start-up:
"Yahoo was growing at neck-breaking speed and David Filo and Jerry Yang were invited to Redmond to talk about working together.
"The meeting turned into a disappointment when Steve Ballmer joined the conversation and gave his opinion on the future of search engines. According to Ballmer Search Engines were a temporary solution to a temporary problem. Ballmer claimed that 'within a few years there will only be a handful of websites left. People will use their Favorites to navigate to those destination sites and nobody will need a Search engine except for a few students and professors.'"
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by vorador on Wednesday October 07, 2009 @04:32AM
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I don't have numbers - actually nobody has them, but the growth of web 2.0 websites had a consequence : less and less people host themselves their websites.
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by wmeredith on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @01:55PM
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The critical thing about a job as a decision maker (a CEO) is not to never be wrong, it's to usually be right. If someone were to cherry pick a bad decision from my past, I'm sure they could find a doozy.
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by kakooljay on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @03:03PM
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Good point - &, to be fair, let's not forget that even Bill Gates (among others) also underestimated the potential of the Internet in the early '90s...
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by RyanMcGreal on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @03:34PM
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It's fun to go back and read an early edition of Gates' The Road Ahead, in which he just completely misses the value, growth potential and benefits of an open, neutral data network. Rather, he simply transposed "a PC in every house" to "an MSN connection in every house".
In fairness, Gates caught on pretty fast and didn't let his own prior prognostication get in the way of positioning Microsoft to extend his company's product lock-in to customers' internet access (see: IE).
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by nearestneighbor on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @07:50PM
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Benefit of hindsight or not, but I think predicting that the number of web sites would actually decrease is showing a total lack of common sense. If I were a shareholder, I'd want someone else at the helm.
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by SamAtt on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @03:01PM
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This is a situation where numbers can mislead. Microsoft may very well be down 53% since Ballmer took over in January 2000 but do they mention that the Nasdaq, a tech industry bell weather, is down 50% overall for that same time period?
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by protomyth on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @02:44PM
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My biggest problem with Ballmer is that he seems defined by what he hates as opposed to what he loves.
Also, his tendency to enter markets for no other reason then to have a product in every market is painful. The Zune is a great example. What the heck did it bring to Microsoft?
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by jakarta on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @02:22PM
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If Microsoft were smart, they'd use the free cash flow that they throw off to outright buy businesses in areas outside of tech that are run by really bright people. Imagine Microsoft going conglomerate. With the right capital allocation they could be an awesome company.
Unfortunately, they probably lack such visionary ideas and will end up throwing good money after bad while their FCF gradually declines as they're made irrelevant. A slow and sad death.
Look at Henry Singleton as a bright leader of a tech company who allocated capital well enough to grow shareholder value by expanding into non-tech areas like insurance.
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by edw519 on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @01:41PM
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2 ways to have $1 billion:
1. Start with a game changing idea in a rapidly evolving market. Assemble a great team. Execute flawlessly. Take advantage of every opportunity. Minimize mistakes. Get a little lucky.
2. Be Steve Ballmer and start out with $2 billion.
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by edw519 on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @03:59PM
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The owners of Microsoft have lost half their equity under Ballmer's stewardship. If his #1 responsibility isn't to preserve and grow the owners' equity, I don't know what is. (Think about it, if you had sold all your Microsoft stock when Ballmer took over and put it in the bank, you'd have twice as much money now.)
I think my little analogy was a pretty illustrative contribution. Why don't you?
Re:Why Steve Ballmer will resign from Microsoft in 2010
by bpyne on Tuesday October 06, 2009 @02:21PM
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It sounds like Yahoo was still in its infancy. Just to play Devil's Advocate, could Ballmer have talked down the role of search engines to get the Jerry et al. to concede Yahoo or its technology at a cheaper price?
Many products launched during Ballmer's tenure have been successful. More importantly, Microsoft has been able to move away from their core business.
* Sharepoint (A billion dollar product and a multi-billion dollar industry.)
* Axapta (purchased)
* Great Plains (purchased)
* Solomon (purchased)
* Xbox/Xbox 360
* BizTalk
* .NET (An application stack to compete with J2EE, unthinkable in 1999.)
----
During the same period, a number of Microsoft products went from minor items to major contenders in their industries.
* MS SQL was a Sybase clone in 1999; in 2009 it's a price/performance champ.
* Exchange was only used in "Microsoft shops" in 1999. Today it's the de facto standard.
As long as Microsoft reduced Sony's profits more than Microsoft lost money, the mission was accomplished.
What business does Microsoft have going after Sony?
So Microsoft saw a company going head to head with them in a lot of key areas, and they decided to weaken the threat.
Disclaimer: I have no actual experience with either Microsoft or Sony when it comes to this sort of thing, so I might be way off target here.
In a post from June [http://thenextweb.com/2009/06/02/web-death-google] Boris relates a famous story about a meeting between Yahoo and Microsoft which took place when Yahoo was still a small start-up:
"Yahoo was growing at neck-breaking speed and David Filo and Jerry Yang were invited to Redmond to talk about working together.
"The meeting turned into a disappointment when Steve Ballmer joined the conversation and gave his opinion on the future of search engines. According to Ballmer Search Engines were a temporary solution to a temporary problem. Ballmer claimed that 'within a few years there will only be a handful of websites left. People will use their Favorites to navigate to those destination sites and nobody will need a Search engine except for a few students and professors.'"
Oops.
The internet, after an incredible growth phase, has just begun to shrink.
In fairness, Gates caught on pretty fast and didn't let his own prior prognostication get in the way of positioning Microsoft to extend his company's product lock-in to customers' internet access (see: IE).
(ref: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EIXIC&a=00&b=1&...)
Also, his tendency to enter markets for no other reason then to have a product in every market is painful. The Zune is a great example. What the heck did it bring to Microsoft?
Unfortunately, they probably lack such visionary ideas and will end up throwing good money after bad while their FCF gradually declines as they're made irrelevant. A slow and sad death.
Look at Henry Singleton as a bright leader of a tech company who allocated capital well enough to grow shareholder value by expanding into non-tech areas like insurance.
1. Start with a game changing idea in a rapidly evolving market. Assemble a great team. Execute flawlessly. Take advantage of every opportunity. Minimize mistakes. Get a little lucky.
2. Be Steve Ballmer and start out with $2 billion.
I think my little analogy was a pretty illustrative contribution. Why don't you?
He has significantly underperformed compared to the market.
Stephen Sinofsky has shown how valuable he is to the company during the Win7 reorg, and will be elevated to CEO by popular demand.