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Re:Systemd redux: The end of Linux by lmm on Friday November 21, 2014 @08:31AM (#8641140)
Lennart didn't just submit the code and put it out there. He lobbied other projects to hard-depend on it, and lobbied distros to adopt it. Systemd didn't succeed where less poisonous equivalents failed because it was technically superior (it isn't), it succeeded because of shady back-room politics.
Re:Systemd redux: The end of Linux by mdellabitta on Friday November 21, 2014 @02:35PM (#8642921)
How dare he ask other people to use the software he wrote.
Re:Systemd redux: The end of Linux by fapjacks on Saturday November 22, 2014 @12:17AM (#8644830)
I think "ask" here is the wrong word, and you know it.
Re:Systemd redux: The end of Linux by jptman on Saturday November 22, 2014 @09:38AM (#8645597)
I'm curious to know what kind of leverage he had over the distros where it wasn't just "ask". Any suggestions on where I can find some info?
Re:Systemd redux: The end of Linux by ngrilly on Saturday November 22, 2014 @05:08PM (#8646816)
Let's say you're right. What kind of "political" leverage Lennard had to convince distros to use systemd?
Re:Systemd redux: The end of Linux by lmm on Sunday November 23, 2014 @05:27PM (#8650184)
All he would've needed was the support of RedHat management, after that everything falls into place: most Gnome contributors work for RedHat, so they can convince Gnome to follow a particular direction and hard-depend on systemd. Then most distributions are under pressure from their userbase to support Gnome (because of a legacy of politics and FUD about the KDE license, because a minimally-configurable environment is popular with the kind of large, inflexible organization that buys expensive support contracts, and because it's actually quite good software) and are therefore also obliged to hard-depend on systemd.

It's in RedHat's interest for software that's currently portable to FreeBSD or especially to Solaris to become tied to Linux. This wouldn't be the first time RedHat has adopted anti-opensource methods out of fear of Oracle - compare their policy of deliberately obfuscating the history of their kernel source.

Re:Systemd redux: The end of Linux by ngrilly on Wednesday November 26, 2014 @03:26PM (#8664411)
Thanks for the explanation. I never thought about this before. It makes senses, but it is scary. I hope you're wrong. :)