Systemd redux: The end of Linux

Re:Systemd redux: The end of Linux by matthewmacleod on Friday November 21, 2014 @06:20AM (#8640782)

That's not the case though – systemd has been enabled by default by Fedora for three and a half years or so, and has been steadily adopted since then by most other major distros. Not everybody is moving at once, so why would waiting a year make any difference?

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Re:Systemd redux: The end of Linux by badgersandjam on Friday November 21, 2014 @06:36AM (#8640825)

This bugzilla query against RHEL 7.0 systemd says otherwise:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_s...

A lot of the bug descriptions are quite scarily bad when you consider them in context such as "various loginctl commands not working" etc.

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Re:Systemd redux: The end of Linux by matthewmacleod on Friday November 21, 2014 @07:07AM (#8640886)

So what you mean is "Systemd still has serious bugs," which is nothing to do with whether or not everybody is moving at once.

That's the point – if systemd has important bugs they should be fixed. Clearly, the groups responsible for the decision have concluded that the tradeoff is worth it, and have accepted that a large, fundamental change will have issues. That's fine – there are a bunch of other distress you can use that have not adopted systemd, which you can use in the meantime if you disagree.

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Re:Systemd redux: The end of Linux by badgersandjam on Friday November 21, 2014 @08:14AM (#8641081)

The two are related.

People are shipping production operating systems with systemd that is chock full of bugs.

An all consuming tentacle monster like systemd is fine if you want to dogfood it but to throw at paying customers and/or supporters of your distribution is a little off key.

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