Re:Ian Jackson Resigns from Debian Technical Committee
by VLM on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @11:48AM
(#8631054)
I played around with upstart, it worked fine.
Alternative init systems are a very old idea implemented over and over for decades.
The "innovation" of systemd is product tying it deeply to Gnome. Nobody is willing to kick out Gnome, so they can make everyone else do whatever they want. Including, say, making it impossible to run any other init system.
By analogy it would be like product tying emacs into python, such that you can't install or run vi if you have python installed at the upstream level, because the default location for python temp files is now /usr/bin/vi. Well, I guess you could stop shipping python, or cave in and remove vi. This is the "innovation" that is new in systemd. Merely being an advanced init is really old stuff.
Re:Ian Jackson Resigns from Debian Technical Committee
by digi_owl on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @12:52PM
(#8631469)
And if it was done commercially, an antitrust lawsuit may have been considered. It is that kind of tying that got MS into hot water regarding IE after all.
Alternative init systems are a very old idea implemented over and over for decades.
The "innovation" of systemd is product tying it deeply to Gnome. Nobody is willing to kick out Gnome, so they can make everyone else do whatever they want. Including, say, making it impossible to run any other init system.
By analogy it would be like product tying emacs into python, such that you can't install or run vi if you have python installed at the upstream level, because the default location for python temp files is now /usr/bin/vi. Well, I guess you could stop shipping python, or cave in and remove vi. This is the "innovation" that is new in systemd. Merely being an advanced init is really old stuff.