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Re:Resignation from the pkg-systemd maintainer team by Alupis on Sunday November 16, 2014 @07:16PM (#8616132)
I'm pretty certain that when someone actually tries to hire an assassin to murder the creator of a free software project simply because they disagree with said software project, things have gone way, way too far.

People who support systemd are not launching personal attacks, calling for physical harm against non-systemd supporters. This is a unidirectional attack. And it needs to stop.

Re:Resignation from the pkg-systemd maintainer team by cthalupa on Sunday November 16, 2014 @07:37PM (#8616200)
>when someone actually tries to hire an assassin to murder the creator of a free software projec

Has this ever been substantiated? From my understanding, the "death threats" were more along the lines of people saying awful things like "I hope Lennart gets run over", not "I am hiring someone to shoot you". Lennart made a comment about a bitcoin collection, but provided no actual proof. Personally, I'm skeptical - I've seen quite a bit of vitriol about systemd, but never anyone campaigning for bitcoins to hire a hitman. It seems like a rather easy way to bring a lot of discredit to your detractors.

Even the former is obviously not acceptable, but no one is being done any favors if we suddenly conflate an offhand mean spirited comment with actual death threats or attempts on someone's life.

Edit: Someone linked the actual conversation - http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/maemo/maemo.20130215.tx...

It's obviously a joke and not an actual attempt to hire a hitman. They shortly after proceed to talk about how Red Hat has replacement clones if anything were to happen, anyway.

Is it a shitty joke? yes. Is it mean spirited? Yes. Is it the same thing as actually trying to have someone kill the man? No.

Re:Resignation from the pkg-systemd maintainer team by Joeboy on Sunday November 16, 2014 @07:43PM (#8616217)
I will offer solidarity and hopefully absorb some of your downvotes.

Yes, it is clearly a joke.

Re:Resignation from the pkg-systemd maintainer team by icebraining on Sunday November 16, 2014 @07:29PM (#8616172)
Making it a "systemd critics" issue will just alienate sane people from the debate. Disliking systemd is not a club, requiring approval for membership. Even if this is a one-sided issue, that doesn't mean it's an issue of the whole side.
Re:Resignation from the pkg-systemd maintainer team by tedunangst on Sunday November 16, 2014 @07:25PM (#8616159)
> when someone actually tries to hire an assassin

What???

Re:Resignation from the pkg-systemd maintainer team by desdiv on Sunday November 16, 2014 @07:36PM (#8616198)
From the horse's mouth:

Recently, people started collecting Bitcoins to hire a hitman for me (this really happened!).

https://plus.google.com/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/post...

Re:Resignation from the pkg-systemd maintainer team by A_COMPUTER on Monday November 17, 2014 @12:33AM (#8616981)
His name was on a fallacious bitcoin "assassination market" only accessible over Tor, basically just a website you could submit names to, with an associated bitcoin address. An obvious scam to glean free bitcoin. The hit man claim is complete horse shit.
Re:Resignation from the pkg-systemd maintainer team by tedunangst on Sunday November 16, 2014 @08:00PM (#8616279)
Oh! I assumed "tried" implied "tried and failed", but it seems the effort is ongoing? I guess the shutdown of Silk Road 2.0 will delay things for a while.
Re:Resignation from the pkg-systemd maintainer team by felixgallo on Sunday November 16, 2014 @09:30PM (#8616563)
What was it that Gandhi said? First you sneer at people, then you lie to people, then when caught out you make up stories to try to get sympathy? Wasn't that it?
Re:Resignation from the pkg-systemd maintainer team by nandhp on Sunday November 16, 2014 @07:36PM (#8616193)
Re:Resignation from the pkg-systemd maintainer team by ctz on Sunday November 16, 2014 @07:53PM (#8616248)
Is an IRC chatlog the best evidence we have that "this really happened"?