Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform
by codygman on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @08:16PM
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Correct. Though many languages don't encourage and as a result don't have nearly as many pure functions as Haskell code.
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Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform
by guscost on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @11:17PM
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In fairness, I could also say that hammers don't encourage carpentry best practices and as a result they cause many more smashed fingers than wood glue. The fact that a tool doesn't prevent counterproductive usage patterns doesn't automatically make it inappropriate for every job.
Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform
by jbooth on Thursday November 13, 2014 @12:58AM
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Point being, I/O doesn't square with that concept. For some reason, every time I point this out, I'm accused of not appreciating the beauty of pure functions. I love pure functions. Maybe they're not appreciating the ugly reality of I/O?
Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform
by codygman on Friday November 14, 2014 @07:26AM
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How much experience do you have composing I/O in Haskell to prove that I/O doesn't square with that concept? Others here have experience using Haskell with I/O, but you just seem to have a hypothesis without experience or examples to support it.
Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform
by dragonwriter on Thursday November 13, 2014 @01:00AM
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> Point being, I/O doesn't square with that concept.
Sure it does, and composes well under it.
Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform
by jbooth on Thursday November 13, 2014 @01:03AM
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I'm seeing I/O as "side effects with possible random error conditions". I really don't see how that squares with functional purity.
It's late on EST but I promise if you put effort into explaining a higher-order take on this I'll put effort into reading and understanding it tomorrow. Have a good night.