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Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by bad_user on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @12:50PM (#8596947)
Meh, F# is pretty good, but Scala has a better type-system. You cannot model type-classes in F# for example and there's some ugliness in it, in a true Ocaml fashion - for example I don't like how you've got to deal with 2 types of generics or the prevalence of "static" methods, static methods that are complete hacks that go back to C++ at least (Scala has no such thing as static methods btw). In many ways Scala is a very elegant language, too bad that many people are scared by these myths that are flying around.

That said, people are missing the forest from the trees. This isn't about the language, but rather about the runtime and the standard library. That's the true value of the JVM, that's the true value in .NET.

There wouldn't be any problem for porting Scala to .NET. Sure, it would be difficult as .NET's reified generics are maybe too limited for Scala's type-system, but I'm sure somebody could make it work, at least partially.

And there was a Scala for .NET, but it lacked interest so it died. But hey, you can still run stuff built in Scala on top of .NET by means of IKVM ;-) Has poor performance compared to a JVM, but then again, people are willing to build stuff in Scala for Android. Also Clojure.NET is doing pretty good from what I've heard.

As a Scala developer that loves Scala and the JVM, I personally find this announcement very exciting. As finally, the JVM has true competition ;-)

Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by noblethrasher on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @03:02PM (#8597787)
You can model type classes in F#, but it's not pretty[1].

Interestingly, C# can model type classes much more straightforwardly (using implicit conversions), and this is one of the reasons I continue to use it along side F#.

[1]http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9868327/f-type-constraint...

Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by dragonwriter on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @05:21PM (#8598660)
> There wouldn't be any problem for porting Scala to .NET.

Other than the fact that .NET reified generics and Scala's type system don't play well together, which was one of the big challenges facing Scala.NET.

Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @05:18PM (#8598640)
Scala for .net never actually worked, at least when I tried it. I submitted a few bug reports and started leaning C#.