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Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by jacquesm on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @11:34AM (#8596376)
> I'm not sure what they've done to receive such hatred.

Hatred?

I simply decide not to buy into a certain company's products and services because I recall some misdeeds from the past and that's equal to hatred?

As for what they have done, I thought Microsofts history was chronicled enough that it doesn't need repetition, especially not on a website for 'hackers'.

But if you need pointers, you can go visit groklaw.net (if it is still up) to read about SCO and Linux, you can read up on the Stacker case and you can try to figure out why Microsoft ended up in court over IE and a long list of other not so nice things they did in the past.

Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by Amezarak on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @07:20PM (#8599211)
I don't understand this attitude. Microsoft's behavior (especially recently) is not out of line with the other tech giants. They are for the most part ethically indistinguishable - so whose products and services can I buy into? Who do you recommend?
Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by smackfu on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @11:42AM (#8596449)
I think some people just have moved on. Heck, a lot of people here were not in tech when Microsoft was doing bad stuff.

Stacker: 20 years ago. IE Antitrust: 10 years ago. SCO: 10 years ago.

Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by jacquesm on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @11:51AM (#8596518)
They're still doing bad stuff today, just on different fronts. That said, I hope they give Google and Apple a run for their money, those are (probably) just as bad.

The last ruling in the SCO case was a mere 4 years ago.

Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by FlyingSnake on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @12:01PM (#8596598)
> They're still doing bad stuff today, just on different fronts.

I mean no disrespect, but what's the bad stuff being done my Microsoft today?

Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by jacquesm on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @12:16PM (#8596722)
That's going to be quite a list. The highlights:

Abusing their patent portfolio directly, ditto through proxies, continued attempts to subvert open standards, bribery to use Microsoft software in various third world countries (and in Romania too, and Germany for that matter) and many others besides but those alone would be enough to not make me go back to using their development platform.

Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by guardian5x on Thursday November 13, 2014 @03:56AM (#8600566)
Just out of curiosity. When did Microsoft bribe anyone in Germany? I have never heard about that.
Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by yuhong on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @01:57PM (#8597418)
I have my own wishlist:

http://yuhongbao.blogspot.ca/2014/08/my-wishlist-for-satya.h...

It also includes things MS has done in the past that is not too late to fix.

Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by nileshtrivedi on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @11:17PM (#8599896)
Patent threats and lawsuits against Android OEMs.

Locking down computers using UEFI Secure Boot and taking control away from the owners of the machine.

Sabotaging the office document standard process at ISO.

Corruption in cases where governments explored switching to alternative operating systems.

Working against software patent reforms.

All these happened within last 5 years (and continue to happen).

Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by icantthinkofone on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @03:11PM (#8597838)
The anti-trust result put Microsoft under US Federal oversight for 10 years. After 10 years, the Justice Department found Microsoft ignoring requirements they were supposed to supply them and extended that oversight for an additional two years which just ended in 2011.
Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by bemused on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @12:24PM (#8596769)
hm, maybe pass that question to someone from finland?
Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by tacticus on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @03:51PM (#8598058)
Ok the brief they submitted in the java case was just last year. they believe that APIs should be copyrighted and should be controlled by those who build the first implementation. Which is just great news for anyone ever building anything.
Re:Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform by jqm on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @08:26PM (#8599451)
How many years ago was the Windows8 release?

Was that a scummy trick? Or just a dumb move?