Data maps that sum up London

Re:Data maps that sum up London by muyuu on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @09:18AM (#8595476)

Yeah well, that's pretty much all big cities when you arrive on your own, especially after student age. It's also very expensive to move around, and at this it's one of the worst places.

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Re:Data maps that sum up London by Symbiote on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @11:51AM (#8596524)

London is cheaper to move around by public transport than many other British cities.

A bus or tram journey is £1.45 regardless of distance, but in Manchester a tram journey is over £3, in Birmingham over £2, in Edinburgh £1.50.

London's tickets are also much better integrated -- only a couple of express train services to airports have special fares, and they all have non-express, cheaper alternatives.

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Re:Data maps that sum up London by muyuu on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @12:34PM (#8596828)

There may be worse places in the UK, I honestly haven't compared that much with medium-sized cities like Manchester or Birmingham.

Among international big capitals (which is what you can really compare London to) it has to be the worst. The fact that going to other cities in the UK is prohibitive makes it even worse (it's cheaper to fly to many places in Europe than going to most other UK cities by any means of transportation). If you want to move medium distances within London in reasonable time, it's tube/Overground/DLR and it's prohibitive. Using the Oyster card it's better but still rubbish really.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/04/most_expensive_train...

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Re:Data maps that sum up London by Symbiote on Thursday November 13, 2014 @07:49PM (#8605190)

The example is stupid and sensationalist, those stations are the two closest at 260 metres apart, or about two train lengths.

Like many European cities, paying by cash is being phased out. It's annoying for visitors, but London is ahead here: Oyster cards are refundable, let the user go overdrawn (into the deposit), and contactless credit/debit cards are accepted.

The actual Zone 1 fare is £2.20. A central zone Berlin ticket is €2.60. Copenhagen ~£2.60. Munich €2.60.

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Re:Data maps that sum up London by Kurtz79 on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @12:14PM (#8596706)

If you don't particularly care WHEN you are getting to destination, it's reasonably cheap.

A bus is a terribly ineffective way to move around London, especially for commuting to/from the center.

A single fare tube ride is 2.20 in Zone 1, escalating quickly with distance.

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