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Re:Facebook's Top Open Data Problems by beagle3 on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @03:37PM (#8558901)
Something does not add up about hive: They say it has 300 PB, and it generates 4PB per day - which means, at this rate, all data was generated within the last 75 days.
Re:Facebook's Top Open Data Problems by boomzilla on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @03:43PM (#8558930)
Most likely that the 300PB are distilled/normalized/compacted data whereas the 4PB per day are raw logs.
Re:Facebook's Top Open Data Problems by bbillings on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @03:49PM (#8558963)
This is the correct answer. Source: I am a FB employee.
Re:Facebook's Top Open Data Problems by beagle3 on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @04:04PM (#8559032)
Thanks.

So, how much does the 4PB of data go down to when it goes into hive? My guess would be something like 200TB.

Is it zipped (or lz4/lzo/zopfli/lzma whatever)? Or is it just "distilled"?

Re:Facebook's Top Open Data Problems by valarauca1 on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @04:54PM (#8559291)
99% of raw data is useless. Just as a rule.

Most of it likely gets tossed into a program to determine if somebody actually needs to do anything, or if something is actually breaking.

For example raw user interaction doesn't really grow. While the event is likely ~1kb or so of raw data, at the end your just incrementing a 64bit counter.

This is a baseless exaggerated post but should shed some light on.

Re:Facebook's Top Open Data Problems by beagle3 on Wednesday November 05, 2014 @07:33AM (#8561487)
> 99% of raw data is useless. Just as a rule.

Well, as a non-facebook user, I think 99.9999% of facebook data is useless :) But facebook is in the habit of tracking everyone's surfing habits across the web (through "like" links), and I assume they do more than just "increment a counter with it", even if they don't keep every single detail.

Re:Facebook's Top Open Data Problems by alkonaut on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @05:30PM (#8559457)
Also 800.000 tables? Surely not in the sense I'm used to, that is, normalized forms where a table corresponds roughy to some business object/noun? Does table mean something else or are there 800k different types of data in there?
Re:Facebook's Top Open Data Problems by FLUX-YOU on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @07:34PM (#8559911)
Yeah that's hard to wrap my head around. We have 2k in a large app and that's daunting. Really curious why that came to be (though that's probably the least interesting thing in this article)
Re:Facebook's Top Open Data Problems by zeroonetwothree on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @04:17PM (#8559086)
Data is not stored forever. If most data is only stored ~30 days, then the numbers make sense.