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Re:The end of AI winter? by jacquesm on Thursday October 01, 2009 @04:15PM (#855735)
I don't see search engines as being 'vaguely related to artificial intelligence' at all.
Re:The end of AI winter? by dhs on Thursday October 01, 2009 @05:02PM (#855819)
Apparently Google's Peter Norvig does, e.g. http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-6754621605046052935&... (he starts talking about the relationship between Google and AI at 06:40).
Re:The end of AI winter? by runningdogx on Friday October 02, 2009 @12:35AM (#856448)
I don't think Norvig thinks differently; he's just using the term "AI" differently. "AI" in the context of the OP is "strong AI" or AGI (artificial general intelligence). Dr. Norvig takes the term "AI" to also encompass "machine learning" in the sense of developing algorithms that learn within limited problem domains. When Norvig means AGI, he says it explicitly (see the video at around 7:30 to 8:30), and he also says specifically that Google is not interested in general intelligence.
Re:The end of AI winter? by jacquesm on Thursday October 01, 2009 @05:07PM (#855825)
Well, he's obviously much more qualified than I am to make that observation. But that doesn't make him right automatically, or does it ?

AI has a certain level of expectation associated with it and I do not see google matching that level in any of their released products.

Computers to date do what we tell them to do. As soon as that changes we call it a bug, not a manifestation of intelligence. As long as that view persists I would argue that we have not yet achieved 'AI'.

Re:The end of AI winter? by camccann on Thursday October 01, 2009 @07:34PM (#856080)
Dr. Norvig is also one of the authors of a very well-regarded textbook on the current state of the AI field: http://aima.cs.berkeley.edu/
Re:The end of AI winter? by Tichy on Friday October 02, 2009 @07:08AM (#856759)
Why not? Suppose you had an agent you could tell "find me the best papers on the subject so and so", you would not consider that intelligent?
Re:The end of AI winter? by jacquesm on Friday October 02, 2009 @10:20AM (#857054)
Absolutely, that'd be great. Where do I sign up for this service ?