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Re:The Guardian Is Being Swamped with 'Dark Traffic' by throwaway900 on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @05:15AM (#8555837)
It kind of is. The Guardian is funded by advertising and this limits their ad sales story. As the article points out, the main beneficiary of this is Google - who are essentially competing with the Guardian for ad sales. I don't always agree with the Graun, but I believe in plurality rather than a Google-dominated world.

Throwaway because of inevitable downvotes from the privacy crowd.

Re:The Guardian Is Being Swamped with 'Dark Traffic' by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @05:51AM (#8555941)
> The Guardian is funded by advertising and this limits their ad sales story ... inevitable downvotes from the privacy crowd.

The privacy crowd are right; and so are you. This is a huge internal conflict the web today - how do you make it pay, keep it free and not have it track users?

Re:The Guardian Is Being Swamped with 'Dark Traffic' by throwaway900 on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @06:00AM (#8555964)
Indeed. I think we need to be a bit more nuanced about what we ask for.

Simple referrer information is very valuable to the Guardian (and others who sell ads), and is in most circumstances not a significant privacy leak. Cross-site tracking via third-party cookies, however, has significant privacy implications.

I would like to see a user/advertiser understanding of "this far and no further". But unfortunately the debate is sufficiently polarised I can't see any change to the current situation, where the tech-savvy disable everything and the less experienced stick with their defaults, which effectively reduces it to an arms race between the big browser manufacturers and a handful of ad networks.

Re:The Guardian Is Being Swamped with 'Dark Traffic' by crdoconnor on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @05:56AM (#8555954)
This presumes that 'keep it free' is actually desirable. Free journalism means the person reading it is the product. Perhaps the less of that, the better.
Re:The Guardian Is Being Swamped with 'Dark Traffic' by thisGuysAccount on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @10:04AM (#8556789)
the existing model has been to subsidize newspaper sales with advertising for a very long time. This same model carried forward through radio and television.

The alternative is a pay-per-view service, or subscribing to wires. I haven't done any research into the viability of that type of service, but it is a paradigm shift.

Re:The Guardian Is Being Swamped with 'Dark Traffic' by TazeTSchnitzel on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @05:57AM (#8555956)
Pick two.
Re:The Guardian Is Being Swamped with 'Dark Traffic' by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @06:01AM (#8555967)
It has been the "not track users" that has suffered; the other two have been picked.

The gist of this article is that users have found ways to not be tracked: this was inevitable, the person running the browser has a lot of control over what the browser sends and where.

So, that pick isn't working all the time any more.

Re:The Guardian Is Being Swamped with 'Dark Traffic' by M2Ys4U on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @05:42AM (#8555915)
>The Guardian is funded by advertising

Not entirely, no. It is funded by a trust, and part of the Guardian Media Group is an investment fund.