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Re:Capitalism Has Gone Off the Rails by yummyfajitas on Monday November 03, 2014 @08:02AM (#8550562)
The premise underlying my post is the belief that all humans have equal moral value. I gather you don't hold this view and therefore will disagree.

However, if you favor some sort of protectionism, I'm curious why you think I should care about poor Americans. Supposing I were to give up humanism and revert to tribalism, as you seem to have done, why would I allow poor Americans into my tribe? Why not simply define my tribe as wealthy white males?

(I personally have practical reasons not to do this. A minority of my friends are American and a smaller minority of the Americans are white males. But those are just practicalities, not moralities.)

I'm also curious whether you favor imperialism. After all, if our goal is simply to maximize American utility, why not just pillage and plunder everyone else?

Re:Capitalism Has Gone Off the Rails by narrowrail on Monday November 03, 2014 @09:05AM (#8550775)
As everyday Americans, we simply do not have the power to directly influence other countries. The world does not operate as a border-less, humanistic, and unified entity. It is not a matter of protectionism and/or tribalism, but practicality. I don't believe it is very easy to influence politics outside of my state, let alone the country. IMO, comparing the plights of people across these 'imaginary borders' is of little help in this context.
Re:Capitalism Has Gone Off the Rails by yummyfajitas on Monday November 03, 2014 @09:48AM (#8550985)
We don't have the power to influence our own country either - your vote simply doesn't matter.

In any case, I'm not advocating for political change overseas. I'm simply advocating against threatening people with violence for engaging in mutually agreeable trade. I.e., if I want to hire an Indian person to work as my secretary, it's not right to forbid this in order to force me to hire an American.