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Re:Capitalism Has Gone Off the Rails by harshreality on Monday November 03, 2014 @12:12AM (#8549416)
> ...the most educated and most productive free people in the world, people who through democratic institutions can shape their societies as they see fit...

I don't accept this premise. Voting is only a small input into the colossal self-propelling machinery of bureaucracy (and the government-to-corporations-and-back chain of what could be called pay-offs or bribes... ie campaign donations, to profit-increasing changes in government policy, and back again).

Re:Capitalism Has Gone Off the Rails by rayiner on Monday November 03, 2014 @07:02AM (#8550361)
True in the small stuff, but it's pretty ridiculous to say that the modern welfare state is the product of bureaucracy rather than democratic will. Look at polls of what voters say they actually care about.
Re:Capitalism Has Gone Off the Rails by RangerScience on Monday November 03, 2014 @12:52AM (#8549508)
I'm with you on paper voting being a small input, but (arguably) a more important part of the "freedom" part of our "free societies" is the ability to vote with my time, dollar, and feet - decide where I spend my time, my money, and where I live.

So howsabout this rephrasing:

> people who through [their free actions] can shape their societies as they see fit...