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Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by tzs on Thursday October 30, 2014 @08:28PM (#8536662)
> People who break into computers usually use broken-into computers as proxies.

That's possibly [1] true, but aren't those broken-into computers almost always the computers of ordinary users? How often do the people breaking into computers use broken-into computers belonging to a computer security expert who knows how to protect their systems from such break-ins?

[1] Not sure about the "usually" part.

Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by lawnchair_larry on Thursday October 30, 2014 @09:27PM (#8536845)
How often do the people breaking into computers use broken-into computers belonging to a computer security expert who knows how to protect their systems from such break-ins?

I know it's counterintuitive, but all the time. Until only a few years ago, it was almost as if every security expert was being publicly owned constantly. Hackers hack each other.

The dirty secret that explains why they would hack those who can protect their systems: nobody knows how to protect their systems. The best firewall is not pissing off hackers.

Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by tptacek on Thursday October 30, 2014 @11:21PM (#8537144)
In the 20+ year history of computer crime prosecution, outside of this disputed case, what is the next most likely case where a hacker effectively framed another hacker who was then successfully prosecuted for the offense?
Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by tedunangst on Friday October 31, 2014 @01:20AM (#8537443)
Shimomura and Mitnick.... ... ......
Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by mikecb on Friday October 31, 2014 @08:48AM (#8538430)
Shimomura was successfully prosecuted?
Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by tptacek on Friday October 31, 2014 @09:38AM (#8538648)
He's being facetious.
Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by mikecb on Friday October 31, 2014 @10:52AM (#8539041)
I would hope so.
Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by tedunangst on Friday October 31, 2014 @12:03PM (#8539489)
Other way around. I have heard people seriously claim that Shimomura framed Mitnick, though I won't speak to how likely that is.
Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by tptacek on Friday October 31, 2014 @12:30PM (#8539640)
A pretty hard claim for him to make himself at this point:

https://www.mitnicksecurity.com/about/kevin-mitnick-worlds-m...

Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by tedunangst on Friday October 31, 2014 @03:39PM (#8540690)
You only asked for next most likely, not likely. :)
Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by bob917 on Friday October 31, 2014 @04:41PM (#8541010)
Anakata was too smart to go after users' computers. He was more of a Kerberos server fellow. Good guy.