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Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by jacquesm on Thursday October 30, 2014 @06:49PM (#8536288)
The local police force here has a test to see if you 'have what it takes' to be a part of their cyber security squad or whatever they call it. On a lark I took part in it (the test was pretty simple, at least, that's what I thought). After taking the test (and knowing full well I had no intention to follow through on applying for a job with them, I just can't look at puzzles without getting this itch to solve them) I realized I may have just given out some information that I had better keep to myself, which is to advertise a capability.

Having a capability and advertising it is already stupid in my book, and more the fool I am I slipped up there. But having such a capability, subsequently approaching machines that you have no permission for, repeatedly attempting to gain access, succeeding at that and then to actually retrieve data that you have no right to when you're already in a position of extreme suspicion with the authorities to me borders on the insane. I really can't understand even for one second why someone as gifted as this would act in this way, it is something I've been wondering about with a lot of these so called hackers. What drives them to do this, obviously the downsides of successfully showing off their skill end up in a head-on collision with forces they can't possibly hope to defeat.

It's all fun and games until the SWAT team arrives.

Have there been any studies on the psychology of people that are pathologically drawn to breaking in to other people's computer systems?

Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by tptacek on Thursday October 30, 2014 @06:56PM (#8536321)
Easy: breaking into computers is very, very fun, and when something feels like a game, it's easy to treat it that way.

If you have a hard time believing anyone would do something like this, look at the 1990s: we got a book practically every year about one hacking group or another breaking into phone switches, credit reporting agencies, government and military networks, and financial institutions. If you can do it, and you're unlikely to get caught --- and you are very unlikely to ever get caught --- why not? Plenty of smart people did stuff like this. Plenty of them.

The most interesting stories from that era did not get written up. Kevin Mitnick didn't write the TCP sequencer. Kevin Mitnick couldn't sequence an ordered array of integers if it was #defined for him in advance.

Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by jacquesm on Thursday October 30, 2014 @07:50PM (#8536526)
> Plenty of smart people did stuff like this.

I know, I know a couple of them. I just don't understand them. Why cross that line? Why risk jail, your career, a whole pile of hardship? The real life consequences is what I'm wondering about, it's as if there is some kind of disconnect there between action and subsequent consequences.

If it is only because it is 'unlikely that you're ever going to get caught' then that's a gamblers argument. (I don't understand gamblers either, so that might be an explanation right there.)

Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by tripzilch on Thursday November 06, 2014 @07:20AM (#8566674)
> Why cross that line? Why risk jail, your career, a whole pile of hardship?

I think part of it is age, maybe. Or rather life-experience, if you will.

I remember back in my early 20s what always stopped me was basic paranoia about getting caught. But that's just how I'm wired personally (and I was probably slightly irrational about the odds). I love breaking, bending and toying with the rules, but too chicken to pull through if it involved anything more serious than a silly prank on friends.

Nowadays (mid-30s), the first thing that stops me is a much more solid sense of what's right and wrong. I prefer it that way, because unlike fear of getting caught, it's a much more solid foundation to depend on.

Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by cpach on Friday October 31, 2014 @04:35AM (#8537816)
To some extent I think it’s ”wired in”. Individuals vary a lot when it comes to risk awareness and risk tolerance. Take drugs for example. Some people will order new synthetic drugs from shady webshops without without batting an eye. Others will never touch anything else than alcohol.
Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by 12-4 on Friday October 31, 2014 @04:51AM (#8537850)
I live in Phnom Penh and I know some people who were acquainted with Gottfried. Without gossiping too much about him, some stories I've heard definitely characterize his behavior as "bordering on the insane".
Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by contingencies on Friday October 31, 2014 @06:19AM (#8538060)
Intelligence can be a burden. Everyone has outlets. Don't be so judgemental.
Re:Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term by 12-4 on Friday October 31, 2014 @07:14AM (#8538181)
I am not judging him at all. He sounds like someone I would like a lot. I have had addiction problems in the past, and so some of my past behavior could have rightly been called insane too.