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Re:Forget Shorter Showers (2009) by pdonis on Wednesday October 29, 2014 @01:56AM (#8525780)
> By reducing citizens' control over the economy and businesses, and by reducing their bargaining power

I agree these are bad things, but they are not the outcome of a free market. The so-called "free market" coerces people into engaging in transactions they would not choose to engage in voluntarily; that is the opposite of a free market. (Perhaps you recognize this and that's why you put "free market" in quotes.)

> Climate change is putting the world at stake.

This statement illustrates part of the problem: we don't all agree on which problems are "putting the world at stake". I don't think climate change is one of them; you do. We can't agree on what actions to take if we can't agree on what we're trying to accomplish.

One possible way out is to redefine the goal: instead of "stop climate change", for example, make the goal "stop burning oil and coal". That goal I can agree with, because I have other reasons to support it that don't involve climate change. Of course, then we get to argue (maybe) about whether nuclear reactors are part of how we reach the goal.

> I like the author's questions but don't at all agree with his solution of ending modern 'industrial' society; things weren't so great before it

I completely agree.

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