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Re:Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world ... by lazyant on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @10:51AM (#8521222)
I agree with you and I understand that a recruiter works for the companies and not for me. Regarding "Engineers were super excited about this. Until I mentioned that part where they'd have to pay me, that is", what specific services were you thinking of providing and what rates would make it work?
Re:Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world ... by leeny on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @02:03PM (#8522408)
I was throwing out the idea that I would handle someone's job search. Basically, you would tell me what you wanted in broad strokes, and I would keep looking until I found the right job for you. I'd also take on the grunt work that normally comes with mounting a job search (e.g. interview scheduling, travel logistics, timing things so they come together at the same time, etc), and I'd either help with or act as a proxy in offer negotiations, depending on which you were comfortable with.

I threw out a few price points when I was chatting with folks, and across the board, everyone was pretty surprised that I'd be charging them. In order for this to be worth my time, I'd need at least $5000 or so per head, and that seemed like an insurmountable figure for people. The best I could get was something along the lines of, "If you can guarantee that I will make $20K more per year, then I can give you a cut," but I didn't really like that either because it still creates the wrong incentives, essentially making it not in my interest to ever refer anyone into a cash-poor, equity-heavy situation, or really into any company that couldn't throw out a lot of cash.

The closest thing I've seen to what I described is offerletter.io (also mentioned on this thread), but I think that has a good chance of working out because of the focus on just the negotiation aspect.

Re:Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world ... by lazyant on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @04:35PM (#8523424)
thanks, I was thinking 5k or even 10k (about a month's salary) makes sense, esp. if you are able somehow to tap into jobs that are not easily searchable.
Re:Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world ... by mallyvai on Thursday October 30, 2014 @06:34PM (#8536230)
Going to hijack Aline's thread here - we do this in a very targeted way at http://offerletter.io. We charge individuals to help them negotiate their offers and really make the best decision possible overall. Is this closer to what you were thinking of?
Re:Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world ... by leeny on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @04:42PM (#8523469)
Ping me if you want to discuss further, either in a purely academically sense or more practically. [email protected]
Re:Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world ... by leeny on Tuesday October 28, 2014 @04:46PM (#8523486)
Oh, and interview prep as well.