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Re:Lawrence Lessig Interviews Edward Snowden [video] by Zigurd on Monday October 27, 2014 @01:31PM (#8516851)
What you are citing actually supports tptacek's claim that there is no law requiring key escrow or other means of circumventing encryption. That appears to be true.

But it makes it all the more surprising that none of these companies supports user-controlled keys, convenient and trustworthy key exchange, and end-to-end encryption for their storage and communications products.

Re:Lawrence Lessig Interviews Edward Snowden [video] by tptacek on Monday October 27, 2014 @02:03PM (#8517079)
Why does that surprise you? Virtually nobody who uses these products wants to use user-controlled keys. Corroborating evidence: compare the success of web-based encrypted chat products (which people who pay attention know don't actually work) to native encrypted clients that do provide end-to-end security. Or compare the adoption of WhatsApp to that of, say, TextSecure or ChatSecure.
Re:Lawrence Lessig Interviews Edward Snowden [video] by Zigurd on Monday October 27, 2014 @02:50PM (#8517343)
You have a point regarding real-time communication. As long as users can be confident ephemeral keys can't be compromised, they are far easier to use. But what about store and forward communication, and storage?

But you could also say that ephemeral keys are user controlled to the extent they are exchanged end-to-end and the conversation can't be evesdropped.

Your objection amounts to saying "We don't have easy, trustworthy key exchange backed by a web of trust."

Re:Lawrence Lessig Interviews Edward Snowden [video] by tptacek on Monday October 27, 2014 @03:49PM (#8517755)
There are three keying regimes I can see in common use:

* Key continuity (a la SSH)

* Web of trust (a la PGP Keyservers)

* PKI (a la SSL CAs)

Of these three, only key continuity appears to work in practice.

I'm eagerly awaiting the UX invention that somehow merges continuity and web-of-trust to make the latter tractable.

I'm definitely not complaining that there's no web-of-trust, since I don't believe in it as a workable UX solution for normal people.

Re:Lawrence Lessig Interviews Edward Snowden [video] by Zigurd on Monday October 27, 2014 @04:41PM (#8518046)
Those are very fair points regarding UX.

I believe the mainstream Web services hold the key (no pun intended) to UX for web-of-trust key exchange. Their users have access to real time communication which would make subverting key exchange and key signing hard, and building a Web of trust convenient, including key replacement, etc. The secure specialty services don't have that capability, and so they remain privacy-for-wonks.

I'm certainly willing to consider that I could be wrong about that. But with trust in short supply, someone should be tempted to build products that say "Trust no central authority, trust this math and the open code that implements it."