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Re:Firebase is Joining Google by morgante on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @02:45PM (#8489020)
Darn, I was just planning to integrate Firebase on a project today. Now I'm very hesitant to do so (if Google doesn't entirely pull the plug at some point, I expect them to package it in with Google App Engine—which I have zero interest in using).

Does anyone know of a good Firebase alternative which is either (1) still independent or (2) run by a company with a reason to maintain it?

Re:Firebase is Joining Google by spankalee on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @05:46PM (#8490285)
All of Google's cloud offerings are available independently.

You can use Cloud SQL, Cloud Storage, Datastore, Compute Engine, App Engine, BigQuery, DNS, and all the APIs á la cart, and I'm sure the same will be true of Firebase.

In case you don't know, the APIs that used to be bundled with App Engine back when it was the only cloud product, like Datastore, have been unbundled over time. I assume remaining App Engine-only APIs like cron are under consideration for unbundling, but there's no precedence for an already unbundled API being bundled to App Engine.

Re:Firebase is Joining Google by niutech on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @09:02PM (#8491026)
Some good Firebase alternatives:

https://parse.com/ - freemium

http://backendless.com/ - freemium

http://www.kinvey.com/ - freemium

http://deployd.com/ - open source

http://firehose.io/ - open source

http://www.baasbox.com/ - open source

https://www.meteor.com/ - open source

Re:Firebase is Joining Google by morgante on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @09:37PM (#8491127)
Most of the Freemium options seem to be targeted at either (a) mobile apps or (b) enterprises (their homepages clearly target executives/managers, not developers). They seem to want to own your whole stack. We have an existing app, with just a small bit that needs to be realtime. Firebase is the perfect solution, so it's really a shame that their future isn't bright.

As for the open source solutions, I specifically want to pay someone money to solve this for us. We've been running ShareJS, but it's annoying to maintain and fix.

Re:Firebase is Joining Google by jkarneges on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @10:38PM (#8491280)
(Disclaimer: I work for Fanout)

If you want to add realtime to an existing project that already has a database, then I suggest checking out Fanout ( https://fanout.io/ ). We intentionally don't want to own your whole stack, and we've opened our code and protocols so that you're never trapped. Would love to get your feedback.

Re:Firebase is Joining Google by tfb on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @10:25PM (#8491255)
https://www.loggur.com is like Firebase on steroids, though only launched a few weeks ago. There is a lot to come: first thing being proper documentation for the REST API behind Loggur (should developers prefer to talk directly to it), and then hopefully huge strides in usability. But we need tons of feedback for the latter!
Re:Firebase is Joining Google by reshambabble on Wednesday October 22, 2014 @10:32AM (#8492857)
Parse actually seems pretty developer-focused. So does Syncano, except their free tier is limited. I believe they're changing that, though. Pubnub, Kinvey, etc. all seem to target more enterprise clients.
Re:Firebase is Joining Google by reshambabble on Wednesday October 22, 2014 @10:17AM (#8492786)
Re:Firebase is Joining Google by illicium on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @10:18PM (#8491231)
Apache Usergrid (open source): http://usergrid.incubator.apache.org/

Usergrid enterprise-grade hosting and support provided by Apigee (as API BaaS): https://developers.apigee.com/get-started

Re:Firebase is Joining Google by JacobHarrington on Wednesday October 29, 2014 @12:37AM (#8525576)
I came across backand - http://www.backand.com/ - they might be a good alternative
Re:Firebase is Joining Google by tfb on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @10:22PM (#8491243)
https://www.loggur.com is like Firebase on steroids, though only launched a few weeks ago. There is a lot to come: first thing being proper documentation for the REST API behind Loggur (should developers prefer to talk directly to it), and then hopefully huge strides in usability. But we need tons of feedback for the latter!
Re:Firebase is Joining Google by reshambabble on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @06:34PM (#8490560)
You might want to check out Syncano for real-time apps/data storage. If you're looking just to do just push notifications, check out PubNub. I believe both are independently owned. And yeah, bummer about the whole Google thing.
Re:Firebase is Joining Google by jonpaul on Wednesday October 22, 2014 @05:11AM (#8491969)
Re:Firebase is Joining Google by cwmma on Tuesday October 21, 2014 @05:35PM (#8490213)
hood.ie or pouchdb might be what your helpful