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Re:Debunking the Duct Tape Programmer by j_baker on Monday September 28, 2009 @10:37AM (#848503)
This is an ad-hominem argument. Consider his arguments for their merits. Not because you don't feel he has a good enough resume.
Re:Debunking the Duct Tape Programmer by tptacek on Monday September 28, 2009 @10:56AM (#848539)
I know you read about Ad Hominem Arguments on several Important Internet Web Guides To Arguing, but in the real world the credibility and authority of an author does bear on their persuasive power.

If Michael Arrington, Steve Ballmer, or Ashton Kutcher wrote an article about "duct tape programming", you'd have no trouble recognizing the dissonance. You only have trouble with it here because it hits close to home: you don't yourself want to be disqualified from the discussion. Which, nobody is going to do that, so relax.

Besides, fully expecting at least 2 HN'ers to jump out from the bushes shouting "ad hominem!", I made some effort to keep my criticism relevant: it's not that he hasn't shipped real product, it's that he has a bio that makes it clear (to me) that he doesn't think shipping is as important as methodology.

Re:Debunking the Duct Tape Programmer by dschobel on Monday September 28, 2009 @11:07AM (#848560)
While you guys sort out whether the source of information should matter vs does it matter to us humans, it should be pointed out that the article itself endorses a quote which hits out against Spolsky for being a "bug tracking system salesman".

Although, I'm writing enterprise code in MS technologies all day long so I'm clearly not to be trusted.

Re:Debunking the Duct Tape Programmer by tptacek on Monday September 28, 2009 @11:46AM (#848628)
But that quote was, at least, funny!
Re:Debunking the Duct Tape Programmer by anamax on Tuesday September 29, 2009 @12:55AM (#849834)
> If Michael Arrington, Steve Ballmer, or Ashton Kutcher wrote an article about "duct tape programming", you'd have no trouble recognizing the dissonance.

I suspect that Ballmer is reasonably good at recognizing programmers who ship. He may not know why the things that he triggers on matter, but he's had lots of opportunities to discover such triggers.