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Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by erlkonig on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @04:04AM (#8457556)
I'm pretty sure the wide spacing, overuse of italics, and massive overconsumption of vertical space mean that an straight text version of the changes emacs would be more comfortable to read. At least it doesn't use ghetto antialiasing (low contrast fg/bg to reduce jaggies).

You can find the text file at: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/news/NEWS.24.4

Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by e40 on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @10:32AM (#8458593)
What I'd really like, rather than the original article (for which your criticism is dead on) or the NEWS file, is a summary of the important changes.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by bnegreve on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @11:00AM (#8458757)
> You can find the text file at: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/news/NEWS.24.4

This is org-mode syntax, so you can browse it with org-mode.

Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by mickeyp on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @05:35PM (#8461934)
Thank you for your feedback.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by actsasbuffoon on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @08:23AM (#8458056)
I've been using a pre-release version of 24.4 for months, and I'm loving it.

Ruby-mode got a huge improvement in its indentation. I was able to delete all of the hacks out of my .emacs files, and it works exactly the way I want it to.

The new superword minor mode is really useful. It lets to treat snake cased words as a single word, which makes recording macros a lot simpler in Ruby, Python, etc.

I've also found that I didn't have to make a single change to my .emacs files. All of my plugins were compatible. It was completely painless.

Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by betteringred on Tuesday October 14, 2014 @11:48PM (#8457087)
Note this article was written last year and I'm guessing a lot of new stuff has been added since then.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by emacsy on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @01:27AM (#8457272)
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by dbaupp on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @01:07AM (#8457252)
Are you sure? The writing implies that it was written recently. (Does the emacs release team consider "any day now" == a year in "There’s a new Emacs minor release due out any day now,"?)

Either way, the article does not mention its publishing date anywhere, which is rather unfortunate for a medium like the internet, where text is forever.

Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by ics on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @01:28AM (#8457275)
This post is from December 29, 2013, according to /feed (using Digg Reader). If you've been using HEAD then you've had 24.4 for longer than that.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by wging on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @01:52AM (#8457314)
> I'm guessing a lot of new stuff has been added since then.

The article implies it shouldn't have been:

> At the time of this writing Emacs 24.4 is in feature freeze; no major changes will get in, but the list of changes you see below is not set in stone – but it almost never changes much.

Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by spain on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @03:07AM (#8457450)
I was about to say the same, should have the (2013) tag.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by _delirium on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @09:01AM (#8458185)
This blog has had a series of posts on some of the new features that I found useful: http://emacsredux.com/blog/categories/emacs24-dot-4/
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by okamiueru on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @05:42AM (#8457718)
From what I see on the extended support of C++ parsing, I doesn't look very promising for handling C++11 features (let alone C++14). Truly disappointing.

I know this is a "if you really need it, why don't you work on it yourself instead of complaining?". I've tried making sense of the cc-mode source, without any success at all.

Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by sklogic on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @06:54AM (#8457858)
You may want to take a look at irony-mode. Do not expect any rich semantic features from the stock c-mode.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by lloda on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @09:10AM (#8458220)
It's not rich semantic features that are missing, but basic stuff such as C++11 keywords, handling of >>, etc. Those seem to be available in a cc-mode branch, but since cc-mode is maintained separately from Emacs, it takes more effort than it should to have an updated version of cc-mode in Emacs.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by sklogic on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @12:03PM (#8459154)
Nowadays using package.el is mandatory.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by okamiueru on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @10:35AM (#8458607)
I use irony-mode, which is a minor mode under cc-mode. They do different things.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by agumonkey on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @08:27AM (#8458074)
I really love that it takes 6 min from git to build the latest Emacs on a 2010 ThinkPad.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by nobleach on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @11:18AM (#8458857)
Using emacs in a terminal is for newbies? I don't want to launch another program just to do my job! I'm already IN tmux running in Terminal.app, for nearly everything else.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by Dewie on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @12:06PM (#8459179)
> Using emacs in a terminal is for newbies?

Yes, if they do it by mistake and don't know that there is an alternative.

Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by doublextremevil on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @12:00PM (#8459127)
Does this mean that It is released? I can only find info suggesting that 24.3 is the current stable version.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by sk8ingdom on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @01:03PM (#8459817)
My understanding is that it's being officially released this upcoming Monday. Builds of it, however, are available for testing and bug reporting.
Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by unsignedint on Wednesday October 15, 2014 @03:43PM (#8461209)
Release candidate is planned this Friday with subsequent release on Monday[1] unless there's something bad.

[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-10/msg00...

Re:What’s New in Emacs 24.4 by asah on Friday October 17, 2014 @06:57PM (#8473857)
as an emacs user for 25 (!) years, this is an inspiring release.