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Re:Show HN: Dating Ring (YC W14) – We do the work, you do th... by Bootvis on Tuesday October 14, 2014 @03:49PM (#8455344)
I believe it will increase message quality but maybe not in a good way: now it's easier to train oneself in sending message that score well but are still a bad conversation starter. What gets measured, gets improved. Unfortunately, measuring real success is quite hard because successful stop using the dating site.
Re:Show HN: Dating Ring (YC W14) – We do the work, you do th... by jared314 on Tuesday October 14, 2014 @05:18PM (#8455882)
> Unfortunately, measuring real success is quite hard because successful stop using the dating site.

Real success is extremely hard to quantify, which is why i'm not suggesting that as the goal. The goal is to grade spam messages, and encourage people to not repeat known spam patterns. (And, if you show the score to the recipients, it also acts as a spam filter.)

Encouraging / forcing people to write less spammy messages might improve the overall message quality, just by increasing the cost, in effort and time, of sending the messages. It also provides some minimum level of feedback to the people who get zero responses from their messages.

Re:Show HN: Dating Ring (YC W14) – We do the work, you do th... by slig on Tuesday October 14, 2014 @03:53PM (#8455365)
> Unfortunately, measuring real success is quite hard because successful stop using the dating site.

IIRC, when the user disables/deletes his/hers OkC account, they can specify the reason: "met someone on OkC (they can type the other person username)", "met someone elsewhere", "not interested anymore", etc. So they probably have lots of good data on success.

Re:Show HN: Dating Ring (YC W14) – We do the work, you do th... by potatolicious on Tuesday October 14, 2014 @04:34PM (#8455621)
Assuming the self-reporting is truthful. How many people are selecting the "this sucks I give up" box?

Self-reporting in general is fraught with problems, doubly (quadruply) so when it's something as close to the ego as dating.

Also assuming the account is shut off at all as opposed to simply idled.