Re:Twitter sues U.S. government over ability to disclose sur...
by opendais on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @12:00PM
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This is pretty much it.
I boarded a commuter plane (prop plane, less than 50 seats) last month at a small town airport. It had pre-9/11 security in place and a broken metal detector. I got a quick pat down that didn't even cover all my pockets. From there, I got on a cross country jet identical to the ones that hit NYC or the Pentagon on 9/11.
It is pretty clear either:
A) The government is so incompetent they can't be trusted with providing anything resembling security.
B) They don't take their security theater seriously.
Re:Twitter sues U.S. government over ability to disclose sur...
by sophacles on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @12:09PM
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As a person who lives in a small town with a small town airport, my self-interest implores you to not talk about that sort of thing. I really like getting out of bed at 7:15 for an 8:00 flight - getting to the airport 15 mins before departure time and being at the gate right when boarding starts is fantastic.
Re:Twitter sues U.S. government over ability to disclose sur...
by opendais on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @12:18PM
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I don't blame you at all. I've been trying to move to a smaller town for awhile. Massive metropolises are nice and all but I'm kinda bored of it.
Would you say I am wrong tho?
Re:Twitter sues U.S. government over ability to disclose sur...
by amurph on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @02:15PM
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At the same time, though there is very little evidence that that sort of security stuff does much to help. Adding the extra security doors to the cockpit helped a lot, but most of the other post 9/11 changes do not have a clear benefit security wise.
Re:Twitter sues U.S. government over ability to disclose sur...
by sophacles on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @01:14PM
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No, I wouldn't say you're wrong.
I have made the same observations in the past when traveling.
Re:Twitter sues U.S. government over ability to disclose sur...
by sprite on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @02:33PM
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They fuck up at big airports too. I was flying from Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson to Miami, FL. I was traveling with two parrots in a kennel that were going with me in the cabin. I told security that they needed to be screened in a separate room because I didn't want to risk them getting startled and flying when out of the cage around a bunch of strangers. They took the kennel and told me to follow them. We walked on the side of the scanners and into a separate room. They made me take the birds of the kennel and proceeded to wipe down the cage and put the piece of cloth in the explosive detector machine. Once it came back ok I was clear to go. I never walked through a metal detector or the body scanner. I informed them of this and they were like 'oh shit' and gave me a quick patdown. I could have not told them and been on my way but didn't want them to realize their mistake and then have to clear out the whole secure area.
Re:Twitter sues U.S. government over ability to disclose sur...
by opendais on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @03:54PM
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Oh, I'm sure they do. But there is a difference between "fuck up in unusual circumstance" and "Hey, lets board an entire plane of people without any of the security procedures".
Re:Twitter sues U.S. government over ability to disclose sur...
by jokoon on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @01:15PM
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shouldn't it be classified because it would warn the terrorists their plan is revealed ?
I have the same reaction to the national security theatre that we're always presented with from classified space. "Trust us there's a real threat, but you don't know about it because it's classified". They can't tell us anything about their 'constant' and 'heroic' efforts to save us from the evil monster redacted. There's no evidence presented to me.
On the other hand, the real bad guys are constantly doing stuff to get in the news. So the only conclusion I have is 'national security' is the bureaucratic way of saying "my girlfriend lives two towns over".