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Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by Karunamon on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @04:38PM (#8391023)
I have to ask, how notorious? Is this a documented effect (on Reddit, not in general) or just the noise that people on the site are repeating much like any other meme?

Most accusations of "circle jerking" I hear there consist of shock and horror that certain communities seem to have certain beliefs/thoughts/ideas in common and that they were dared to be disagreed with. (I.e, you really should not be all that surprised when you try to float progressive ideas in /r/republican, or vice versa, and find your comments downvoted)

It's to the point where I almost reflexively downvote anyone on Reddit who brings it up, since 99 out of 100 times, it's a complaint that they were disagreed with, rather than anything that adds to the discussion at hand. (Which, IMO, is the explicit purpose of downvotes)

Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by nl on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @08:34PM (#8392233)
I have to ask, how notorious? Is this a documented effect (on Reddit, not in general) or just the noise that people on the site are repeating much like any other meme?

I think there have been some incidents which were dangerous and notorious. In particular, the misidentification of the Boston Bomber was one case that attracted mainstream attention[1].

[1] http://www.cnet.com/news/reddit-regrets-role-in-online-witch...

Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by patcon on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @10:01PM (#8392454)
Funny, since i find that to be the best example of communal remorse and reflection that i can dredge up for reddit. Compare reddit's turnaround to how quickly and thorough redactions take place in establishment in-groups of journalists or business leaders or politicians. The fact that an amorphous group of humans can come to have reddit's institutional memory and remorse is astounding imho. The boston bombing error is known and passed down like folklore from old members to new, keeping similar actions on check.
Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by snowwrestler on Wednesday October 01, 2014 @01:51AM (#8393030)
Feeling remorse about being so wrong is not laudable, it's just normal. The problem is that they got it wrong in the first place.

> The boston bombing error is known and passed down like folklore from old members to new, keeping similar actions on check.

No it's not. The Boston bombing thing was just the most high-profile example in a long line of similar problems. Here's one from before the Boston Bombing:

http://gawker.com/5751581/misguided-internet-vigilantes-atta...

And here's one from after:

http://www.theawl.com/2013/09/i-was-a-hated-hipster-meme-and...

Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by scrollaway on Wednesday October 01, 2014 @03:38AM (#8393243)
There's a hilariously sad current bandwagon effect going on about the user Unidan, a "reddit-famous" biologist who, after a petty argument with another user, turned out to have less credentials than he claimed and to have manipulated votes using sockpuppets.

This is possibly the most hated guy on Reddit right now. Not whoever started the whole boston bombing witchhunt. Not someone who actually did anything harmful. Just a guy who got "unfair karma". And unlike with the boston bombing, there is zero self-awareness about how idiotic this whole thing is (and how common it is for anyone remotely popular on that site to manipulate votes in some way). It's a sad display, and I cannot imagine what this would turn into with more concrete monetary incentives.

Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by Karunamon on Wednesday October 01, 2014 @08:26PM (#8398730)
If you think it's about the karma, you are seriously misinformed.

Voting accomplishes two things - giving/taking meaningless points, and determining where (and if) your posts are ranked on the board.

The problem with Unidan is that he used a botnet to cheat the system. When you're on the new queue or have just commented in a large thread, a single vote or two can be the difference between ending up at the top of the thread (or board) or never being seen at all.

It's not about the points, it's about the fact that the voting system is pretty damned sacred to Reddit. By breaking pretty much one of the only global rules, he cheated people out of a chance to have their own posts/comments seen. We can only speculate as to how long it was going on.

Creating "useful content" is not a valid excuse for usurping community for your own self-aggrandizement. Even HN has a voting ring detector. Why do you think that is?

Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by scrollaway on Thursday October 02, 2014 @10:18AM (#8400802)
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be banned and what not. I'm saying it is stupid and pathetic that he is despised to the core more than a pedophile strangling kittens would be on that site.
Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by Karunamon on Thursday October 02, 2014 @12:03PM (#8401297)
Know any pedo-kitten-stranglers that made the front page via one of the default subreddits? You seem to be very quick to disparage a lot of people who are mad for very understandable reasons.
Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by libraryatnight on Thursday October 02, 2014 @12:24AM (#8399422)
I'm curious where it was determined he used a botnet? I thought he just made alternate accounts.
Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by _pmf_ on Wednesday October 01, 2014 @05:39AM (#8393529)
> This is possibly the most hated guy on Reddit right now.

Which I find strange, since he actually delivered very high quality content and was overall a boon to the community.

Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by nl on Wednesday October 01, 2014 @12:25AM (#8392819)
Yes, that's true, and it's good that Reddit recognizes its mistake.

It doesn't make the incident any less notorious though (which I guess is why it was remembered so well).

Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by scrollaway on Wednesday October 01, 2014 @03:31AM (#8393229)
If by "Recognizes its mistake", you mean "have a majority of people who were not involved talk about how the other guys fucked up using the 'we' pronoun".

It sure is easy to point out your own flaws when you're in someone else's body.

Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by dubfan on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @05:34PM (#8391420)
Right, so you end up with these subreddits full of people reaffirming each other's viewpoints. Nobody wants to hear anything challenging their views, but at the same time they stomp their feet and whine without a hint of irony, "why doesn't the other side just get it?" This also leads to schisms resulting in vicious infighting. It's pretty much the complete opposite of an environment conducive to intellectual development.
Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by jn1234 on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @07:11PM (#8391958)
There is extreme group think in subreddits like /r/politics and /r/libertarian. The main problem is that the quality of content degrades extremely quickly as the community grows. It has been eternal september there since Digg v4.
Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by Karunamon on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @08:44PM (#8392256)
Is that unexpected though? Or even a necessarily negative thing? I don't think so - especially in the case of a political ideology discussion forum like /r/libertarian, most of the people who went there to seek it out and subscribe to it, more likely than not, share those beliefs.
Re:Reddit Plans Cryptocurrency to Give Back to Its Users Aft... by rmtew on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @08:39PM (#8392245)
What is the difference between describing something as extreme group think, and describing it as a circle jerk? How does one differentiate between this being a valid description, and an unwillingness to accept that one's position is the unpopular one?