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Re:Beyond Objective-C, Beyond Swift by chrisbuchholz on Saturday September 27, 2014 @01:39PM (#8377640)
I feel you misunderstood the article.

To my understanding, his point is that we need database persistence, automated RESTful APIs, triggers and responses and better ways to do UI layout, but what we got was Swift which doesn't address any of these things. The things we actually need.

So we end up with a new language which we have to spend time mastering, and when we are done doing that, we still need to fix those problems we had before we got Swift, so what is the point? Why do we need Swift?

That's how I read the article anyways.

Re:Beyond Objective-C, Beyond Swift by pohl on Saturday September 27, 2014 @03:30PM (#8377945)
That makes it sound as if a modern language sans the baggage of C was not needed. It was.
Re:Beyond Objective-C, Beyond Swift by mpweiher on Saturday September 27, 2014 @04:28PM (#8378110)
Hmmm...to me it makes it sound like a modern language without the baggage of C was and is needed, but Swift is not that language.
Re:Beyond Objective-C, Beyond Swift by pohl on Saturday September 27, 2014 @04:43PM (#8378151)
[language] does not solve [problems not solved by languages].

Film at 11.

Re:Beyond Objective-C, Beyond Swift by mpweiher on Saturday September 27, 2014 @04:52PM (#8378172)
Welcome to Tautology Club! If Tautology Club is the sort of thing you like, you will like Tautology Club. Alternatively, you will find that you like Tautology Club if that is the sort of thing you like.

In other news, you might have checked some of the other posts here that explain why some of these problems are, or at the very least can be language problems, before letting loose the snark.

For example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8377860

Re:Beyond Objective-C, Beyond Swift by pohl on Saturday September 27, 2014 @05:05PM (#8378209)
"My smartphone didn't palliate my hemmoroids" is no tautology.
Re:Beyond Objective-C, Beyond Swift by mpweiher on Sunday September 28, 2014 @03:17AM (#8379164)
But "[language does not solve] [problems not solved by languages]" is.
Re:Beyond Objective-C, Beyond Swift by pohl on Monday September 29, 2014 @01:36PM (#8383974)
Your opinion fails to shorten my daily commute – which is the truly pressing concern.
Re:Beyond Objective-C, Beyond Swift by nbevans on Sunday September 28, 2014 @09:51PM (#8381407)
Your example is a link to yourself and two footnotes that link to articles written by yourself. Are you a joker?