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Re:New California law requires drivers passing cyclists to g... by aroch on Tuesday September 16, 2014 @03:36PM (#8326620)
You can't have your cake and eat it to; either everyone follows all the traffic laws (including you) or no one follows all the traffic laws.
Re:New California law requires drivers passing cyclists to g... by malyk on Tuesday September 16, 2014 @05:53PM (#8327315)
Or you could have more reasonable traffic laws.
Re:New California law requires drivers passing cyclists to g... by jackmaney on Tuesday September 16, 2014 @07:41PM (#8327708)
Or we could start enforcing traffic laws for cyclists.
Re:New California law requires drivers passing cyclists to g... by malyk on Tuesday September 16, 2014 @08:52PM (#8327907)
And for speeding cars, rolling stops for cars, illegal turns, broken lights, using cellphones while driving, parking in bike lanes, etc.

The most frequent complaint I hear about cyclists is the stop sign/red light/yield to pedestrians issue. Changing the law to be more sensible (specifically implementing the Idaho Stop for cyclists) would end the vast majority of those complaints.

Other issues, like taking up an entire lane, are annoying, but only done consistently by assholes...just like only a small portion of drivers are assholes.

It's certainly a pain to have to go slow behind a cyclist when in a car, but it isn't your god given right to go 10 mph over the speed limit at all times...which is the prevailing attitude of basically all drivers everywhere.

Re:New California law requires drivers passing cyclists to g... by jackmaney on Tuesday September 16, 2014 @10:55PM (#8328294)
How about we just start by having traffic laws enforced for cyclists at the same overall rate as that for motorists.
Re:New California law requires drivers passing cyclists to g... by wffurr on Tuesday September 30, 2014 @12:07PM (#8388987)
How about we enforce the laws proportional to the danger each road user poses to those around them?
Re:New California law requires drivers passing cyclists to g... by jackmaney on Tuesday October 07, 2014 @03:46PM (#8423549)
That sounds like a possible second step.

First, let's start enforcing traffic laws for cyclists.

Re:New California law requires drivers passing cyclists to g... by wffurr on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @11:49AM (#8427527)
The doctrine of proportional harm would basically eliminate enforcement of traffic laws for cyclists because they cause very, very little harm compared to motor vehicles.
Re:New California law requires drivers passing cyclists to g... by jackmaney on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @05:49PM (#8429651)
You're assuming that I buy into this so-called "doctrine of proportional harm" (whatever that is).

You know what happens when you assume, don't you?