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Re:Sysadmins see evidence that they have been hacked by GCHQ... by rdtsc on Monday September 15, 2014 @12:32AM (#8317284)
The key to bribery (well, heck the key to keeping members of any "evil" organization's mouths shut), is to find something they are really really embarrassed about, some sexual fetish, something secret about their family. Or, promise to absolutely put them in prison over some crime they committed. For the later, ever better entrap them to commit the crime first and record it. All that coupled with a reward -- if they need money, offer money (maybe in the form of a consulting business in a NSA front company with this purpose in mind).
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Re:Sysadmins see evidence that they have been hacked by GCHQ... by pinaceae on Monday September 15, 2014 @09:54AM (#8318851)
No, the key to bribery is that once someone accepts money, you have two hooks in them:

1., They are willing to sell you intel for money.

2., You can now blackmail them as they accepted a bribe.

Point 2 is the reason you should never accept bribes when doing business, especially abroad and everyone tells you "it's normal". they're just waiting for a foreigner to get exposed, take your passport and have fun with you. see Russia, etc.

No need to be Macchiavelli.

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Re:Sysadmins see evidence that they have been hacked by GCHQ... by korzun on Monday September 15, 2014 @01:56AM (#8317465)
That's not how bribery works.

> is to find something they are really really embarrassed about

I don't think NSA needs to employ high school level tactics.

If they want to pin something, they will. True or not.

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Re:Sysadmins see evidence that they have been hacked by GCHQ... by madaxe_again on Monday September 15, 2014 @04:11AM (#8317758)
Oh boy. Oh yes it is. You don't bribe someone for information unless you have dirt on them, otherwise there's nothing to stop them turning traitor on you. If you don't have dirt on them, you just invent some. Doesn't matter. People don't fact-check - if the media says it, it must be true.
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Re:Sysadmins see evidence that they have been hacked by GCHQ... by korzun on Monday September 15, 2014 @11:57AM (#8319587)
> You don't bribe someone for information unless you have dirt on them

That's not a bribe.

Learn the difference between strong-arm tactics such as blackmail and bribes. Two completely different approaches.

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Re:Sysadmins see evidence that they have been hacked by GCHQ... by madaxe_again on Tuesday September 16, 2014 @02:50AM (#8323357)
The two almost always go hand in hand, unless you're talking about bribing a traffic cop - which we're not.

Patronising dickhead.

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Re:Sysadmins see evidence that they have been hacked by GCHQ... by korzun on Tuesday September 16, 2014 @12:44PM (#8325417)
Touched a nerve kiddo?

Link me to a case where NSA/CIA/FBI blackmailed AND worked with / gave money to an individual at the same time.

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Re:Sysadmins see evidence that they have been hacked by GCHQ... by madaxe_again on Wednesday September 17, 2014 @05:11AM (#8329193)
Still a patronising dickhead?

The CIA typically recruit through a combination of carrot and stick - i.e. bribery and blackmail.

"Hey dude, let me tell you about this sweet slightly dodgy thing I can get you in on."

... ...

"Oh by the way, I hope you like all that money you made. I work for the CIA. Work with us or go to jail, your call."

More commonly than not it's not about self-preservation, rather protection of loved ones - read up on Operation Mockingbird, which was driven pretty much entirely on this basis - luring journalists in with a subtle bribe hook, then using it to blackmail them.

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Re:Sysadmins see evidence that they have been hacked by GCHQ... by korzun on Saturday September 20, 2014 @09:15PM (#8346045)
> read up on Operation Mockingbird

Did you read anything I posted? In what instance was somebody bribed AND blackmailed at the same time during the Mockingbird?

Please go back to Wikipedia and try again.

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Re:Sysadmins see evidence that they have been hacked by GCHQ... by madaxe_again on Tuesday September 23, 2014 @03:04AM (#8354332)
Not sure why I'm even engaging with you. Go back to your military contracting job and keep your head down.
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Re:Sysadmins see evidence that they have been hacked by GCHQ... by gcb0 on Monday September 15, 2014 @02:40AM (#8317559)
that was CIA time and they since learned that plain money works best even with the most zealot radical
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