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Re:What Happened to U.S. Plans to Raise the H-1B Visa Ceiling? by jazzyk on Friday September 12, 2014 @11:24PM (#8311550)
Don't know about the whole STEM industry, I can only offer anecdotal evidence: almost every big corp I consulted for had FLOORS of Indian people, many of whom barely had community college - equivalent diploma.

H1-B has its place, but is should be reserved for REALLY qualified people - say the ones with MS or Ph.D in sciences who graduated from American universities.

Re:What Happened to U.S. Plans to Raise the H-1B Visa Ceiling? by grinnbearit on Friday September 12, 2014 @11:40PM (#8311578)
Considering its the only real option for anyone in China/India to work in the US, what would you replace it with? Or do you prefer they stay right where they are?
Re:What Happened to U.S. Plans to Raise the H-1B Visa Ceiling? by jazzyk on Saturday September 13, 2014 @09:39AM (#8312336)
All I am saying is that importing a small number of really bright, highly educated MS and PhDs _is_ beneficial to _everybody_ in the US(creates jobs, etc). Yes, it is brain drain.

I am not sure why the US needs to provide work places for Chinese and Indian citizens? There are many US citizens who need a job these days.

I don;t think I am being insensitive - most countries are very protective of their job markets. Try to get a work permit in France or Europe if you are not from a EU country.

Re:What Happened to U.S. Plans to Raise the H-1B Visa Ceiling? by grinnbearit on Saturday September 13, 2014 @01:59PM (#8313062)
I understand your morals could be different from mine but heres how I see it.

A Chinese or Indian citizen is an individual, like any other, just like you even. Through no fault of their own they've been born in a country that doesn't provide the same quality of life for them and their family that an American/EU resident enjoys. Don't they have the right to the pursuit of happiness just like you?

For an extreme example, would you rather be a Chinese Foxconn employee or an unemployed American. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veil_of_ignorance )