Feds Threatened to Fine Yahoo $250K Daily for Not Complying with NSA's PRISM

Re:Feds Threatened to Fine Yahoo $250K Daily for Not Complyi... by tptacek on Friday September 12, 2014 @12:57PM (#8309057)

The indictment contains stipulated facts, which I took pains to pull out. You've ignored that, and instead chosen to beat up a straw man: the idea that I give credence to everything in the indictment, and that my argument depends on the reader believing the prosecutors.

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Re:Feds Threatened to Fine Yahoo $250K Daily for Not Complyi... by jcc80 on Saturday September 13, 2014 @09:40AM (#8312337)

"You've ignored that, and instead chosen to beat up a straw man: the idea that I give credence to everything in the indictment..."

They may have been confused by you writing, "Here's the indictment. It's quite straightforward." Either way, point is this is yet another NSA thread derailed by a smaller issue (insider trading vs. 4th amendment, domestic spying, etc). It's too bad people choose to engage and let it happen over and over.

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Re:Feds Threatened to Fine Yahoo $250K Daily for Not Complyi... by xnull2guest on Saturday September 13, 2014 @05:22PM (#8313634)

http://youtu.be/3jQoAYRKqhg?t=14m17s

I'm not saying that this thread or even HN is a victim of this.

I do want to use this opportunity to contribute that there are NSA programs designed to derail conversations.

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Re:Feds Threatened to Fine Yahoo $250K Daily for Not Complyi... by xnull2guest on Sunday September 14, 2014 @12:26PM (#8315523)

Perhaps the person downvoting this could explain why it wasn't relevant to the branch of the conversation.

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Re:Feds Threatened to Fine Yahoo $250K Daily for Not Complyi... by tptacek on Saturday September 13, 2014 @11:48AM (#8312688)

I agree that Nacchio derailed the thread, but look at the timestamps: there was a sprawling and irrelevant Nacchio thread here before I got here.

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