Not to the average person, it doesn't. HN's hatred of facebook is a well documented thing, but to the average user, it's the place where you go to look at pictures and talk with friends and so on.

>> HN's hatred of facebook is a well documented

Where and why?

The last thing I knew is that the Facebok hatred came from Google supporters who hate Facebook because it is Google's nemesis.

Find any thread on HN that deals with Facebook primarily. The comments will run along the lines of (evil/intelligence gathering front/destroying communication) and all manner of other emotionally loaded and/or objectively incorrect nonsense.

There's not liking or not using a service, and then there's pathological hatred.

I have never read a single positive thought on Facebook on this entire site in my entire time here.

>> Find any thread on HN that deals with Facebook primarily. The comments will run along the lines of (evil/intelligence gathering front/destroying communication) and all manner of other emotionally loaded and/or objectively incorrect nonsense.

I know them, they all express hatred for Facebook, but curiously, they never explain why.

>> There's not liking or not using a service, and then there's pathological hatred.

There is, but the reason is unknow to me.

>> I have never read a single positive thought on Facebook on this entire site in my entire time here.

Neather I, but again, the reason of so much hatred remains a mistery.

My theory is that those people hate Facebook because it is something that Google can't be, no matter how hard it tries, and they think Google should have that spot.

But why?

Are they getting pay to do it, it is because they are die hard fan boys?, or maybe both.

You're both off in the weeds.

There are many many posts on HN talking about why someone got rid of their facebook account, or begging for an alternative, or throwing them under the PRISM bus.

However, many of them give explicit reasoning (sometimes in great detail), so not part of some pro-google astroturfing campaign, and there are many posts extolling the virtues of facebook, if only for practical reasons, so if you've "never read a single positive thought", you're suffering from severe selection or confirmation bias.

>> However, many of them give explicit reasoning (sometimes in great detail), so not part of some pro-google astroturfing campaign

I've never seen one.

The reasons I've read are mostly emotional, other reasons because of technical issues that can be mitigated just changing the configurations, other reasons because they don't like Mark Zuckerberg.

Other reasons of why they don't like it are applied to G+ also, yet they use G+ w/o complains.

Now, if you can provide examples of valid reasons, then I'm all ears.

ah, so by "they never explain why" you mean they gave reasons that you didn't deem "valid".

As I said, off in the weeds.

In any case, here's lots of counter examples for you: https://hn.algolia.com/#!/comment/forever/0/deleted%20facebo... (sorry, lots of emotional reasons in there too...it's hard to filter out a completely valid reason for stopping the use of something)

The only "valid" reason I saw in that list, it is because "Facebook is using my data" something that is stipulated in the license, so, in the end is not a valid reason. And how is G+ or Google in general better than this? Is not. And the same people hating Facebook for security reasons and yet use Google or an Android phone are not congruent with their ideas.

In other words, those people hate Facebook and they don't even know why.

Well there are certainly more reasons than that, so I'm not sure you even went through the first page, let alone the 28 other pages of results. Moreover, it's ok to "express hatred for facebook" and have that thing be something intrinsic to social networks. And considering the 718 posts just with that search, I don't believe you even went through the first page.

Second, only 5 of the first 25 posts there even mention Google and most of those are also objecting to the same practices fro Google that they're objecting to from Facebook, so, as I said, you may be suffering from more than a little confirmation bias here.

The search query is "I deleted facebook", the results stop being relevant after the first page, the rest is just noice, the problem is that you have failed to point to me to valid examples of motives to hate Facebook, weird, since you afirmed there were several well documented, yet, you have showed the quantity of zero.

So, you can't show me an example, I assume you are bluffing and neather you or anyone here has a valid reason to hate Facebook, at least not a reazoned one, just emotional.

I,m sorry, but the question is why do Nycombinator users hate Facebook, not how to use a search engine.

>Facebook provides plenty of reason to leave Facebook.

While true, G+ doesn't actually address any of those reasons.